CrunchBang 10 “Statler” r20110207
Unless you have been living under a rock, you will almost certainly be aware that Debian 6 “Squeeze” was released over the weekend of the 5th & 6th of February ’11. This is great news for Debian and great news for CrunchBang.
CrunchBang 10 “Statler” has been in development since early last year. The first alpha release came out in March ’10 and several development builds have followed whilst Debian Squeeze remained in testing. Now that Squeeze has migrated from testing to stable, CrunchBang Statler will also adopt the stable moniker.
The new CrunchBang 10 “Statler” r20110207 images were built on Monday 7th February 2011 using the stable Debian Squeeze and CrunchBang Statler repositories. Changes from the previous builds have been kept to a minimum. The changes that have been made include:
- Chromium Browser (ver.9) replaces Google Chrome stable.
- Debian Installer (gui & text) replaces the previous Live Installer.
- Other minor changes and bug fixes.
A huge thank you is owed to everyone who has helped with the testing and development of Statler. The continued feedback from Statler users has been amazing and has really helped to make Statler the best CrunchBang release to date. Thank you. :)
NOTES:
Existing Statler users should not need to perform a reinstall, instead a simple ‘sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade’ should suffice.
IMPORTANT NOTE FOR UNETBOOTIN USERS: CrunchBang images will more than likely fail to work if copied to USB devices with Unetbootin. Please use the recommended method for creating USB installation media.
If you do decide to give CrunchBang a try, please visit the forums and join the conversation. We would love to read your feedback and suggestions for improvements!
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February 8th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Thank you guys! Nice work!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
thanks, a useful release !
February 8th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Congratulations guys, Is this release offer same free kernel installation option on debian squeeze?
February 8th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Checksums?
February 9th, 2011 at 1:26 am
Congratulations and good work!
February 9th, 2011 at 6:55 am
@popslee, see the main download page.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Having been a distrohopper for years, I finaly found rest with CrunchBang 9.04. After upgrading the system to Statler I thought I had found the system to recommend everyone: My sister and my colleges, UNIX profs, and linux-newbees, But I have a problem. After the 20110115 upgrade I get first a login promt, then after 15 s GDM. Sometimes the system autologins as it is configured to. There are other things that needs to be fixed, But they are small. Please Corenomial give me a hope that it can be fixed, cause I wont leave.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am using Nvidia 195. drivers.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Phenomenal news. Updating as we speak. (downloading later). Now a person is able to (or might be able to) make people see How good Linux can be. #! Statler Stable sounds excitingly strong. Keep at it though, any release of #! is welcomed in my book. I hope prosporous things will come to you and help you keep up the good work. Blessings. Ped
February 9th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Thanks a lot corenominal
February 9th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Thank You very much for this release! It is one of my favourites.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Great. #! is the only thing that runs smoothly on my old eeepc 701 (though the ath5k wifi-driver probably could do better, that not your fault however). I don’t seem to get anything new when I do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Is it just delayed to the mirror or something.
I still have Google Chrome f.x., not Chromium.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:31 am
I love this!
[sudo apt-get dist-upgrade] and it’s like getting a new machine!
Even more amazing that with other distro’s used in the past, you have to use their ‘special’ upgrade application to make what should happen from the command line.
Every once in a while, I think about moving to greener pastures, and I realize that they’re just… not.
Thanks, C-
February 10th, 2011 at 2:24 am
@Lars, regarding the Chrome to Chromium switch, please read this.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
In good time, too: I’ve hacked my current install beyond recognition!
UNetBootIn doesn’t work with a lot of distros, but ‘dd if=/ of=/’ seems to work every time.
GUIs get in the way of (savage) simplicity!
February 11th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
would debdelta work? I’d like to save some time downloading packages (next time, I guess. I’ve already typed in dist-upgrade and it’s taking quite a while) . After all, crunchbang itself is very lean and fast. Is there a risk that one would not obtain the same results as a regular dist-upgrade?
thanks for the distro.
February 11th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
@corenominal. Thanks. That makes sense.
February 14th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Hello,
I tried to install Xfce live cd but didn’t succeed. How can i install from live CD ? there is no ‘install’ menu or ‘install’ icons
Live CD is promising and would like to have in my hard drive now.
Thank for reply
February 14th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
@fred, installation should be selected from the boot screen. I hope this helps. :)
February 15th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Nice!
Like the change to Chromium as the default web-browser.
Great work, as ever, getting better all the time!
February 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Yay! The best distro I ever used!! Thanks guys!
February 17th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Would it be worth mentioning in the release notes that Statler incorporates ‘plug-in-&-play’ support for USB Mobile Broadband (dongles)? Many of us either depend on them for internet connection or like to use them with laptops. It can certainly a factor in choosing a distro, especially when many ‘up-to-date’ distros do not include this (Inexplicably, many ‘netbook distros’ seem to lack this support!).
Another point is that 200MiB RAM seems to be more than enough for Statler OpenBox (which on either a live USB or CD runs like lightning when there’s 1GiB RAM available).
February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Mr.Voorxotho, I second your thought about (gnome-)network-manager, which is afaik the only network manager that works for usb modems out of the box. I also wholeheartedly share your comment that it is an important ‘factor in choosing a distro’! I just cannot understand that for the sake of avoding a few dependencies of network-manager, which don’t exceed a couple of megabytes, many distros make themselves useless to some potential users like us! If there is anyone out there,who could install for example ArchLinux with usb modem, raise their hand!
February 19th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Echoing this. This is an essential feature for me right now.
Interesting; I don’t know if it’s worth mentioning, but I just ran the latest stable of #! using Unetbootin and it seemed to be fine. Live version worked and I managed to get part-way through the installation process with it. Didn’t complete because I was scared of partitioning.
February 20th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
@gezegen: I think the crucial component, on top of Network Manager, is ‘mobile-broadband-provider-info’.
“… ArchLinux with usb modem …” can be done, & the info is there on the forums; but to be fair, Arch is an RTFM distro. It’s the ‘mobile’ distros that aren’t what they claim to be that are the losers on this score.
No worries, in Statler we have a genuinely mobile distro that’s as rock-solid as BSD & nearly as fast as DOS!!!
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:57 am
Have I mentioned how slick the post-install “cb-welcome” script is? No, I mean have I mentioned it today…
February 26th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
This is a great little distro. I downloaded the XFCE version and am very impressed with it. The cb-welcome script is, as has been mentioned, an impressive addition. I decided against installing Open Office, and instead installed LibreOffice, which actually turned out to be fairly straightforward (I was limbering up for a bit of a challenge).
I hope this project goes from strength to strength. It deserves a wide audience.
March 1st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
@merelyjim:
I’m glad you found the ‘cb-welcome’ script to be slick.
My experience is the exact opposite: installing JRE goes no further than an unresponsive license agreement & the ‘install packaging tools’ goes no further than ‘retrieving libc6′.
However, the pipe-menus work fine, & installing JRE through Synaptic gives a responsive licence agreement.
IMHO, ‘cb-welcome’ script does no favours whatsoever for what is otherwise a superb distro.
March 6th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Correction:
It would be more accurate to say that if you live in the UK & are dependent on mobile broadband, then be cautious about running the ‘cb-welcome’ script’, depending on the reliability of your network provider.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I’ve been dabbling with linux a few years now and Love my #! However this new release will NOT burn to CD with any of the image burning software I’ve used. I’m using Windows XP to do the work, since I haven’t went completely to Linux yet. Have I been the only one to experience this anomaly?
March 13th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
[...] Zeichenkombination „#!“ im Namen – Ladies and Gentlemen, please meet #! Statler [...]
March 20th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
i loaded #! 10 w/OB on a friends “no hope” dinosaur system and it goes like the wind !
i just wish i had never thrown away my 286 & 386 systems …
just one thing, i’ve worked on computers since early 74. i have always known the “!” character as a “shriek”, i.e. a scream.
“bang” was initially a secondary option.
having said that, “crunch shriek” doesn’t flow imo
anyhow, thanks a million guys
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:20 pm
I just wanted to mention that #! with openbox worked fine after using unetbootin to put in on my thumbdrive :-).
And: Are there any screenshots where I can compare the look of XFCE and Openbox? Though I will stay with openbox for performance reasons…
April 10th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
would love to try this out dude but there does not seem to be a direct download only torrent and no peers
May 2nd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I would like to try, but as ratboy wrote, only torrent and no peers. Is there another way to download?
June 14th, 2011 at 5:21 am
I think there is no development after this release in Feb. ! Anyway I liked ur Crunch Bang very much :)
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 pm
#! Statler XFCE4 on an old Coppermine unit with <256MiB RAM.
54.2MiB RAM/6%CPU at idle!!!
Still not hit 200MiB RAM use yet.
How come so few other XFCE-based distros perform this well? Xubuntu requires much more resource use; & Fedora XFCE-spin won't even install – not enough RAM – although Ubuntu Lucid GNOME runs quite well on this old box.
Excellent development work by all involved: this distro should go far, especially with the good advice & knowledge-sharing by the forum members, which is of great help to us 'learnixers'. {@genothomas: A stable distro is the ideal place for learning how to use an operating system & developing operator skills. If you want 'bleeding-edge', there're plenty of Debian unstable/testing-based distros to choose from}.
Many thanks for an exemplary distro#!.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:34 am
Congratulations! I love this distribution! It’s the best for me.
Regards from Argentina!
June 23rd, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Now you can download the Openbox version (i686) from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OL0CX846
June 27th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
… and the Openbox version (x64) can be downloaded from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9VNBMWB3
June 28th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Nice work,i just found Crunchbang by mistake,i am so happy i did. unetbootin worked just fine.(acer aspire one)Lucky me.I Am amazed how fast my lap top is right now.I think this is what i have been looking for a long time.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:24 pm
So when does #! move to a NetBSD base?
When I win the Lotto, may I buy you a gold-plated rocket-car, or at least fund a good UK server?
CODE: sudo apt-get install everything!!!
July 17th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Great learning distro: I’ve settled on the OpenBox version – nice, easily rewritable menu, hot-keys, etc. – working around a few problems, figuring out some easy solutions, learning some good stuff about how an operating system works, getting less annoyed & more patient with the ‘Linux system’. I don’t have the time to be confuguring a source-based system right now (although I’m sure a #!-BSD would be quite remarkable) so CrunchBang is ideal for me.
Many thanks.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Major problems:
no video or audio disc playback, internet is fine, but vlc, rhythmbox or mplayer will apear to play, but there is no output & thunar cannot mount media discs.
openoffice crashes by default.
Nothing of help on the forum.
Apart from this, a good distro.
August 10th, 2011 at 12:11 am
Statler XFCE 32bit:
Simply brilliant (in a monochrome way)#!
XFCE with all the benefits of the OpenBox shortcuts: this is almost a mouse-free distro.
Better than LMDE or Ubuntu, from a much smaller team.
I learned a lot from #!OB, & am now benefiting from the knowledge.
An Emdebian version would be interesting.
When is ‘Waldorf’ being released?
August 10th, 2011 at 6:06 am
@atheologian, I am glad you are enjoying it. I have started working on Waldorf, but it is very early days, so do not expect anything just yet. :)
August 12th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Yeah, excellent: “The Waldorf Project” sounds interesting.
Apart from having to use the mouse to connect to the net, & navigate between a couple of pages & boxes, I’ve been able to write this by using the keyboard alone, which says a lot about the quality of #!.
#! gets my vote for “Best Distro” #!
August 21st, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Just a quick test, for the statistical record:
Writing this on #!Openbox through Epiphany web-browser:
78.3 MiB RAM usage,
9.5% CPU usage.
Ran it on 114Mib RAM today, without any problems.
This is impressive.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Is there any chance to get XFCE4.8 with crunchbang, because I really love this distro but I love the last XFCE too…
August 29th, 2011 at 8:44 am
@signupnow, yes, soon, hopefully.
November 14th, 2011 at 3:40 am
I was a distrohopper until I found Statler last February. Still using it! Love the speed :) Thank you.
January 15th, 2012 at 2:48 am
Why have you turned #! into a server distro????
Debian Stable is the server version… (to be compared with centos)
Debian Testing however is the desktop version of Debian!
Please do yourself a favor and add “Testing” images back.. that way as many users wount leave you as they do now, and some might even move back!
February 12th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Thank you for adding the debian Testing images back, you did the right thing!