Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

hi i just installed crunchbang on my aao and i was wondering where the add/remove program is on the menu because i cant find it and i also cant get my conky script to fit on my screen if anyone can help me that would be great thanks

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Hello tinee and welcome to the forum.
First of all: Openbox is very spartan, I know there is ways of automagically update menus, but for a clean menu you just edit it by hand on Preferences>Openbox>Edit menu.xml or you could edit it on Preferences>Openbox>menu editor? (I guess it's that because one of the first things I did was translate it to portuguese) that will give you a nice GUI for setting menus.
And now is just knowing what is the command to call that program, in you case I believe is: gnome-app-install. Because I didn't do a clean install don't really know if it is installed on #! if not just do a sudo apt-get install gnome-app-install.
Another way of getting that kind of menu is on lxpanel, right-click on it and Add/Remove panel items>Add>Menu and you will get a menu more close to the Gnome/XFCE menu.

For conky just trial and error to find out the best solution.

Hope this helped.

Last edited by flsantos (2009-02-12 10:47:26)

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Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Greetings, all.

The Kuki kernel does not work with my '3' broadband USB key - it simply doesn't recognise it, and no menu item inviting me to connect appears on clicking the network icon in the panel.

Reverting back to the 'proper' kernel makes it work as normal.

I can live with this for now; but what's the best way to report a bug like this to the Kuki kernel people?

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

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Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

flsantos wrote:

Hello tinee and welcome to the forum.
First of all: Openbox is very spartan, I know there is ways of automagically update menus, but for a clean menu you just edit it by hand on Preferences>Openbox>Edit menu.xml or you could edit it on Preferences>Openbox>menu editor? (I guess it's that because one of the first things I did was translate it to portuguese) that will give you a nice GUI for setting menus.
And now is just knowing what is the command to call that program, in you case I believe is: gnome-app-install. Because I didn't do a clean install don't really know if it is installed on #! if not just do a sudo apt-get install gnome-app-install.
Another way of getting that kind of menu is on lxpanel, right-click on it and Add/Remove panel items>Add>Menu and you will get a menu more close to the Gnome/XFCE menu.

For conky just trial and error to find out the best solution.

Hope this helped.

Thanks that worked now i just need to figure out which app openbox uses to add or remove apps at startup i cant find the session app in the menu.

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

thought i'd register and post because i'm really really excited about crunchbang on my aao. i found myself disappointed at the current state of ubuntu on the aao and by some freak accident i found this place. i love openbox, i love minimalism, and i love my aao. so thanks a lot for putting forth the effort documenting your processes.

anyway, right now i'm using kernelcheck with the sickboy config in hopes of getting my aao working perfectly. my main problem with the standard sickboy kernel is that my dell 1390 mini pci-e wifi card doesn't work. i am one of the guys that went and bought a dell 1390 for os x. os x runs beautifully on the aao aside from sleep not working. even if sleep did work, it's just not legit, so i'd love to run linux (i'm a big fan of linux on all of my other PCs). i don't want to put the atheros card back in, so here i am. the 1390 works fine with the standard ubuntu/crunchbang install, but there are other things that don't work of course, like audio. i guess the sickboy kernel strips out what is needed to run the 1390, right? so i found the wireless LAN section in the config and disabled atheros and enabled the new bcm drivers. i hope this works. does that sound right to you guys? is there an easier/better way?

Last edited by ronji (2009-02-17 22:08:53)

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

tinee wrote:

Thanks that worked now i just need to figure out which app openbox uses to add or remove apps at startup i cant find the session app in the menu.

you should go read up on how openbox works - http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Main_Page
i think you need to add lines to the autostart.sh file to run things at startup. what are you trying to add/remove from startup?

edit: i could have at least linked this section for you http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Autostart

Last edited by ronji (2009-02-17 22:04:21)

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

After trying out several other distros on my AAO, I incidentally came across this wonderful distro.

I followed the instructions on the wiki and had a fully working system!!! With the beauty and simplicity of Crunchbang.

I also wanted to comment that if you're using the latest BIOS version from Acer (v.3309 or later) both card readers work without the problems that existed before. You can see a better explanation on the Debian on the  Aspire One wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne.

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Had to sign up just to post how much I love CrunchBang on the AA1.

Previously I used Ubuntu 8.04 and then tried the Netbook remix.  Moved on to Linux Mint 6, and have finally settled on Crunchbang.

Some feedback on my install.

I skipped doing the Kuki kernel.  It is nice and speeds up the boot process, but I find it missing too many things, and after building my own kernel numerous times as I found something new I needed, I just decided to stick with the stock kernel.  Some things I wanted support for that I had to compile my own cut down kernel for were: truecrypt, and gamepad support.  I also had some issues with the base Kuki kernel on Mint 6 where the graphic speed on the AA1 was very poor.  Not sure what was going on there, but using a stock kernel fixed it, and everything pretty much works.   Takes a little more time to boot, but I can live with that.  (plus I avoided any issues with building the new kernel mode fan driver listed below)

I didn't use the kuki madwifi either and just downloaded the latest madwifi and built and installed it.  The kuki wifi might have worked ok with a standard kernel, but I didn't want to bother with it being a problem.

For fan control I used the new kernel space acer fan driver.   This one runs as kernel module and it doesn't have any of the potential race conditions other fan control programs have.  Works GREAT for me.

You can get it here.  http://www.piie.net/index.php?section=acerhdf

I grabbed the latest version. 0.2.2-2. You can do the following to install it.

wget  http://www.piie.net/files/acerhdf_kmod-0.2.2-2.tar.gz
tar zxvf acerhdf_kmod-0.2.2-2.tar.gz
cd acerhdf_kmod
make
sudo make install
sudo modprobe acerhdf

You should also add "acerhdf" (without the quotes) to /etc/modules

Please note I have heard this doesn't build correctly with users of the kuki kernel.  So be aware of that.  Worked great for me when done on a base Crunchbang system.  Sure it is something trivial to get to build under a kuki kernel.

The only issue I have had with acerhdf is it not running correctly upon resuming from a suspend.  Should be pretty easy to fix that, but haven't worried about that yet.  I just did a rmmod and modprobe on it after resuming and it worked fine again.  I don't really use the suspend feature so I was lazy and didn't look into a fix further.

I also added

DisplaySize 195 113

to the "Monitor" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf

and added

Option "NoDDC"

to the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Those two changes gave me a much smaller and cleaner looking font for the AA1's screen.  Looks very sharp.

I made the changes as noted on Ubuntu's site to get the madwifi and intel sound to work on resume.  These changes probably aren't needed for people using kuki kernel, but they were for me with the base kernel.

Once again too all involved.  Thanks for CrunchBang Linux!!!

Last edited by hillsoft (2009-02-25 16:59:08)

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Thought I would post an update.

There is a new version of the acerhdf fan control module.

One thing I noticed is it allows viewing of the current temp by doing a

cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp

I added an entry in my conkyrc file so I am now getting cpu temp displayed with this method.

I have been very pleased with #! on the AA1.

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

i installed crunch last night on my aao, following bassetts rather nice wiki. i too have used the acerhdf module (version 0.3) instead of acerfand and noticed it doesnt kick into action after suspend (ie, the fan stays on full). you need to write a little script and stick it in pm. there are details on an archlinux wiki for resuming the audio on the acer after suspend which can be adapted, but i havent got my bookmarks right now to give the link. ill probably write the script tonight though and post it up here.

also, i found compiling the acerhdf module to be a pain in the arse because im using the sickboy kuki kernel and it failed to make those symlinks that have been mentioned earlier in this thread. i had to manually create some folders and symlinks, and also edit two paths in acerhdf's makefile because it was trying to use a path with // instead of a single slash. odd.

again, ill post further details when im not at work.

i also noticed that in the wiki under wifi it says to run the command:

echo "ath5k" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

but it should be:

echo "blacklist ath5k" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

also, shouldnt all references to gedit be changed to leafpad in the wiki?


thanks again for the great howto though. apart from the odd niggle here and there it was a pleasure to install crunch on my new acer thanks to it.

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

this seems to solve the acerhdf issue with resuming from suspension. as you can see all the script does is remove the module and reload it. it's based on the script detailed here that's used to resume the wireless card on wake.

create the file:

sudo leafpad /etc/pm/sleep.d/00acerhdf

paste this in:

#
# Restart acerhdf after suspension
#

case "$1" in
        resume|thaw)
                rmmod acerhdf
                modprobe acerhdf
        ;;
        *)
        ;;
esac

exit $?

chmod for execution:

sudo chmod u+x /etc/pm/sleep.d/00acerhdf 

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Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Hi,

I finally bought my a mini laptop for myself, Acer Aspire One. My machine is as follows:
- AOA 150-Bw
- P/N LU.S040B.188
- Model No. ZG5
- Intel Atom 1.6 N270
- Ram 1 GB DDR2
- HD 160 GB
- OS Win XP Home
- System BD/BIOS: 35/3301

First I updated the bios from 3301 to 3309. I followed Hillsoft's instructions. I used #! Lite edition and installed fan control acerhdf, display adjustment etc. #! works well! I'm currently running #! from 4 GB micro SD card but will install later it on the hd side by side with XP.
The fan control worried about me at first because no noise almost at all. I guess the fan is not spinning at all. But during installing all updates temp went up somewhere 65C and the fan started to spin. Guess it is working properly...

Registered Linux User #483227 (better late than never).
From my other hobby: "If you can't buy it, you can make it!"

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

al,

Glad to hear everything went well on you #! install on the AA1!!!

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

by the way, has anyone got a nice OSD for the volume working? only thing i could find is OSDsh and from what i remember, when you mute, the mute statement stays shown.

Last edited by aeiah (2009-03-13 16:11:43)

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

First of all i have to say that i've been using #! on my AAO for a good couple of months now and i love it, it works so well on the aspire one, i love the minimalist interface, and its been a great disappointment having to look at using KDE for other tasks after getting so used to and enjoying openbox. Fantastic job!
I run it as a persistent flash drive install, and installed the sickboy kernel, which is now my problem.
I suspect that due to my inexperience i messed up the kernel install, and now ive been wanting to download and install other packages, andd just generally get the system working fully-but the package manager gives me the following error message:

E: The package linux-image-2.6.28-sickboy-kuki needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.

 

I have got a  similar error message when trying to install a new kernel via the command line.
Unfortunately there doesnt seem to now be a source for the kuki kernel, so is there any workaround for this? I

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Hi fmcc!!

I have kept a copy of the three packages that sickboy compiled for the kuki kernel:

  • linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki_0.4_i386.deb

  • linux-headers-2.6.28sickboy-kuki_0.4_i386.deb

  • madwifi-modules-2.6.28sickboy-kuki_0.9.4+r3772.20080716-1+0.4_i386.deb

I guess that it won't take long for the http://www.aspireonekernel.com/ site to be back up and running again, or somebody else will continue providing kernel versions optimized for the Acer Aspire One.

In the meantime, if you know where I can upload these files so you can reinstall them, I have no problem in doing it.

Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the kernel config, in order to recompile it myself. Does anybody has it?

Cheers!!  Rodolfo

Last edited by rofranco (2009-03-24 12:40:17)

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

If you have the kernel installed you should have a copy of the kernel config  file on your system.

Should be in /boot/grub I believe.

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Thank you hillsoft!!!

Indeed I have the kernel config installed on my system. It is located in the /boot directory and the file is: config-2.6.28sickboy-kuki

If anyone knows where I can upload the files, just let me know.

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Glad it was there, not sure why I typed /boot/grub instead of just /boot.  smile

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thanks rofranco, but the folk over at aspireoneuser.com pointed me in the direction of the google cache of the site, and http://www.ug.it.usyd.edu.au/~scole/ from where you can download the images.
now that i have them however i'm having a bit of a problem with the re-install.

crunchbang@crunchbang:~$ sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki_0.4_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki.
(Reading database ... 99977 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki (from linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki_0.4_i386.deb) ...
Done.
Setting up linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki (0.4) ...

Hmm. There is a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.28sickboy-kuki/build
However, I can not read it: No such file or directory
Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.28sickboy-kuki/build


Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.28sickboy-kuki/source
However, I can not read the target: No such file or directory
Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.28sickboy-kuki/source

Running depmod.
Finding valid ramdisk creators.
Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk.
Running postinst hook script update-grub.
Searching for GRUB installation directory ...
No GRUB directory found. To create a template run 'mkdir /boot/grub' first. To install grub, install it manually or try the 'grub-install' command. ### Warning, grub-install is used to change your MBR. ###

User postinst hook script [update-grub] exited with value 1
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki (--install):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
linux-image-2.6.28sickboy-kuki

is this because i've installed crunchbang on a flash drive? i'm not quite sure how grub-install works, is it necessary? Any help would be appreciated at this stage, many thanks.

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

I'd like to join in and say that #! has my vote!!!

Since getting my 110L I have tried Linpus, Ubuntu Heron, Intrepid, UNR, Mandriva, Easy Peasy and so far this is what I am looking for:

Simple, stable, minimal, quick & pretty. I think it's a good distro for user who are comfortable around the command line and fairly technical without having to be hard core Linux pros. I somehow like OS's which install and work in less than 3 days...

I will however report that I had to revert to the eee-lean kernel after trying out the sickboy kernel. I loved the boot time improvement (definitely noticeable) but could not get my eGalax touchscreen to run. Missing a usbhid driver module and could not build the tkusb out of the TouchKit software.

-- Any idea how to remove the eee-control-deamon ??

JF

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

hi there...
bought me an acer aspire one a110l! the linpus linux sucks, xp is too slow and ubuntu is frickin' brown!

crunchbang on AAO is just  GREAT! works like a charm! when you do lots of IM, i recommend skype4pidgin plugin, just to have all contacts in on neat little window!


one question regarding the ssd and sata ports:
how much ports does my model (A110L) have?
i read something about ZIF (35pin) and pata in the internetz? is this right?
i want to upgrade to a faster HDD or SDD, can you recommend one (sata, sata2. ide, ?  1,8" or 2,5" ? )

i found a mod on the internetz, where someone build an esata port right next to the left SD-card-slot? it would be great if someone can post a link of an dissambled A110L, where the harddisk connectors are marked?

can i somhow back up my system, because i dont want to make all the little chances again next time when i install (you know: kuki kernel, madwifi and so on!)?

are their ways to reduce battery drain, so that my battery lasts longer? i am primary using the AAO for IM, surfing-iinternetz and torrenting!
it would also be cool if someone could post a script (dont know how to call it, am very new to linux wink ) or so, for starting pidgin when connected to the internet?

need a master that is teaching me proper linux-commandline-kungfu

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

thanks bassett and hillsoft!

i had to stop in and say thanks for the info. i was running unbuntu 8.10 since i received my aao a few months ago (16g ssd model). not quite the jumping into to linux that i was looking for and it is a bit sluggish with the sluggish ssd. (might have to invest in a faster one at some time). #! is perfect for me and the little aao. i follow the wiki and hillsofts reqs and am running it off a persistent 4gb jump drive for now but i am sure that i will do a full install soon since i dont boot into ubuntu anymore.

i am still figuring things out. i still havent gotten weather up in my conky. i tried accuweather running a script (had to research it) and still havent gotten it to run. tint2 with its systray is a bit buggy but not bad and it looks pretty darn nice. fits with the streamlined simplicity of openbox.

any one have suggestions how to get rid of the window title bar on firefox? not the f11 trick either. i am trying to maximize the screen space as much as possible. i have it down to 3 narrow bars (title, nav and open tabs) using personal menus add on, monocrome theme and tab mix plus (no help from this one but my fav addon).

i use ubuntu last night and it felt so strange. i really missed super+space and super+d. thinking that i will install on another cumputer also.

cheers and keep up the great work!
ryan

you have to break it before you can fix it

Re: CrunchBang on the Acer Aspire One

Right-click on the Firefox titlebar and select "Un/Decorate". Voila your Firefox now has no title bar.

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