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Topic: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

After upgrading the kernel to 3.0, my #! randomly decides not to boot.

this usually happens when I let grub choose the 3.0 kernel with no interaction from my part. the last message on screen is a failure for i915.

I'm  running 64-bit os.

Does anyone else have this problem? Or know what is causing it? Thanks!

Last edited by jms53 (2012-02-03 13:49:13)

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

Dunno, but I held my breath when mine rebooted into 3.x.  On two distros I tried lately 3.x locked up hard when I mounted some CIFS shares.  Rebooted and mounted the shares for me fine this morning.

cf. i915 Black Screen of Death, with and without 3.x kernel  in case that helps.

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

fratermus wrote:

On two distros I tried lately 3.x locked up hard when I mounted some CIFS shares.  Rebooted and mounted the shares for me fine this morning.

I don't know what CIFS shares are so probably don't have any... the weird thing is that it only seems tohappen when grub sends the "boot" signal as opposed to my selecting the kernel version.

Guess I'm sticking to 2.6 untill 3.0 gets  a major fix.

Thanks! I was starting to think it might behardware related (a previous distro recognized my CPU as being old, and my ram as virtually non existant).

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

There's a 3.0 kernel image in stable-backports? hmm  I have Statler amd64 Nov. point release on my desktop...as far as I can see in the APT cache, backports skipped 3.0, went straight to 3.1.0 and 3.2.0.

Can you tell us more about the hardware you're experiencing this with?

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

pvsage wrote:

as far as I can see in the APT cache, backports skipped 3.0, went straight to 3.1.0 and 3.2.0.

Can you tell us more about the hardware you're experiencing this with?


My bad, it is indeed 3.1

I am using a Thinkpad X201, intel i5, and 8Gb  ram.  I still have the (I think) 2.6.

Thanks!

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

Yay ! More babble ... am sure everyone is excited about the prospect. wink


Might look over this thread. O course anything/everything I opine or done to someone's OS installs as result ... is 125% NOT my responsibility. Only saying that to make myself feel better in case of borkage. Also haven't yet tried the 3.x version of any kernel on #!. Tried that liquorix thingy and some later versions than the default one. Older kernel works better for me it seems. Only suggesting that perhaps the statler repo is somehow causing complications for peeps. It did n has for me, as that above thread documents.

Other CBizgreat! weirdnesss ( also take zero) responsibility for. Might try looking into upgrading version of grub2 if any are out there ? It sounds weird that the kernel will install for ya. Yet grub2 falls on it's face when booting it. Know having several kernel versions installed @ same time is no big deal. Tried it a time or two ... Being lazy I tend to just find one that works good and use it. Guessing upgrading kernel is a choice type deal ... Nobody HAS to do it so much. Though you have a PC with some good specs there. Would think a newer kernel ... maybe not latest, would have some benefits for ya ...



Good luck either way n wish upon peeps mucho happy computing. wink

Last edited by CBizgreat! (2012-01-31 23:49:04)

Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue
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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

CBizgreat! wrote:

Guessing upgrading kernel is a choice type deal ... Nobody HAS to do it so much. Though you have a PC with some good specs there. Would think a newer kernel ... maybe not latest, would have some benefits for ya ...

I switched to CB because I HATE (yes, the capitals do make me feel better about myself) the unity interface.  Also, since CB is so light I was hoping for lightningspeed (much unlike Win****).

The older kernel works fine, so I'm sticking to that until later 3.x kernel comes out.  The upgrade came from a simple 

 apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

command.

Been using *buntu distros for couple years now, but CB is the first distro that installs easily, and really gives me easy access to almost all (if not all) configuration files without having to look for them. Also, openbox really makes the multiple desktops really effective.  ah well,  guess it's just time to wait...

Thanks!

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

The new kernel just throws up errors and eventually just leaves me with a terminal. Trying to start slim does nothing.
So I'm still using the 2.whatever kernel.

Incidentally, as the new kernel is the default for grub, any way I can change the order so the 2.whatever kernel is first?

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

Throne777 wrote:

Incidentally, as the new kernel is the default for grub, any way I can change the order so the 2.whatever kernel is first?

If you are using an old version of grub, try this:

 gksu geany /boot/grub/menu.lst

Otherwise try this:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/cl … boot-menu/

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

@Throne777 or anyone else who has a reason to care about this.


Open a terminal ...

gksu geany /etc/default/grub

Geany or whichever other text editor someone feels like using. Then change this thingy to be whichever kernel you want to be default. GRUB_DEFAULT= .Works something like this ... Whatever kernels you have installed, when grub2 boots the top entry on your grub menu is grub_default 0, if ya add a new kernel grub will make it default 0.

Example of grub2 boot menu.
v

The most recent kernel you installed = Grub_default=0
That new kernels safe mode entry     = Grub_default=1
An older gnu/linux kernel  you have    = Grub_default=2
That older kernels safe mode entry    = Grub_default=3
etc, etc, etc.

So change GRUB_DEFAULT= to be the number of the entry that you want to boot default, after changing this file ( save it o course) and then update-grub in terminal.

sudo update-grub


wink (CB)

Last edited by CBizgreat! (2012-02-03 21:09:03)

Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue
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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

Awesome! And there I was thinking it was a "parcours du combatant" (french for soldiers' training course).

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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

CBizgreat! wrote:

@Throne777 or anyone else who has a reason to care about this.


Open a terminal ...

gksu geany /etc/default/grub

Geany or whichever other text editor someone feels like using. Then change this thingy to be whichever kernel you want to be default. GRUB_DEFAULT= .Works something like this ... Whatever kernels you have installed, when grub2 boots the top entry on your grub menu is grub_default 0, if ya add a new kernel grub will make it default 0.

Example of grub2 boot menu.
v

The most recent kernel you installed = Grub_default=0
That new kernels safe mode entry     = Grub_default=1
An older gnu/linux kernel  you have    = Grub_default=2
That older kernels safe mode entry    = Grub_default=3
etc, etc, etc.

So change GRUB_DEFAULT= to be the number of the entry that you want to boot default, after changing this file ( save it o course) and then update-grub in terminal.

sudo update-grub


wink (CB)


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Re: [solved] Kernel 3.0 not booting?

Know your pain fellas ... Definitely welcome.


I dreaded grub2 for a long time. Still using grub legacy as bootloader atm. Crunchbang gave me the motivation to actually start googling up on grub2. Once ya do a lil bit of reading about it, grub2 is not nearly the PITA many of us have come to believe.

Extra credit babbling while @ it. In that same file you will see the line GRUB_TIMEOUT=x . You can change that too if you so desire. =x is the number of secs grub2 will wait before booting the default kernel you have selected. Mine for a couple reasons is set to GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 So grub2 immediately boots the kernel I picked, doesn't wait at all.

And o course, as mentioned above, whenever you change that file, of course save it. But also update-grub in terminal so the changes take effect.



vll ! wink

Last edited by CBizgreat! (2012-02-03 23:15:59)

Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue