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Topic: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

I'm trying to dual boot #! 9.04 64-Bit and Windows 7 on my new(ish) Toshiba Satellite L505. I've got my partitions setup the way I want them, but, every time I've tried to install, I get some random error(mostly about ACPI) leading with 'AE_NOT_EXIST' and the BusyBox Shell.

Specs(Can Provide more if needed):
AMD Turion II Dual-Core Mobile M500 2.20GHz 64-Bit
4GB RAM
Hitachi HTS545032B9A300 ATA 320GB Hard drive

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

Seriously? Nobody?

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

What does your partition table look like?  Have you had any luck installing the OS's?  If so which ones?  Do you get any grub screen or does it bomb before any of that?

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80GB partition setup for #!. I've had a small bit of luck with 8.04, but it would freeze up at 90% (when it's trying to load the USB-module). Anything after that, I would get past the bootload screen, then it would go straight to the screen with error I described in the first post.

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headkorn1812 wrote:

80GB partition setup for #!.

You have to give more than that.  I can tell you that the secret to successful dual booting is in the partition planning.  You have to have adequate space for each OS, in the proper formats(ext4 for #!, NTFS for Windoze).  Windows insists on being the first partition and you will want to install it there first.  You'll also want a Linux Swap partition and maybe a /data partition in ext2, since Windows will not read anything except NTFS/FAT, but can be modified to read ext2.

Depending on how committed you are to working with Linux, you may want to partition the drive for a single Linux distro (host), with large allocations for / and /home, then install Windoze (guest) into VirtualBox.

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

epidenimus wrote:
headkorn1812 wrote:

80GB partition setup for #!.

You have to give more than that.

What, why more then 80GB? That should be more then sufficient!

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

@blackbinary - We need more info, not more space on the partition.  Is the partition formatted FAT32 or EXT3 or...?

What are you installing *from*?  USB-powered optical drive?  Thumb drive?  What brand of drive?  Apparently some thumb drives play better with Linux than others.

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epidenimus wrote:

Depending on how committed you are to working with Linux, you may want to partition the drive for a single Linux distro (host), with large allocations for / and /home, then install Windoze (guest) into VirtualBox.

I normally only use Linux, used #! 8.04 and 8.10 without any issues as my default OS on my desktop. But since I got this laptop, most distros(mainly Debian based) I've been trying to use, have failed before installation was complete.

pvsage wrote:

@blackbinary - We need more info, not more space on the partition.  Is the partition formatted FAT32 or EXT3 or...?

What are you installing *from*?  USB-powered optical drive?  Thumb drive?  What brand of drive?  Apparently some thumb drives play better with Linux than others.

The partition was created through Disk Management in Windows, then to be formatted as Ext3 during #! installation. Using an install CD that was burned with a TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633Y ATA and  Windows Disk Image Burner(Didn't have time to use something else)

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

Have you tried formatting the partition using the Live CD before attempting the install?

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pvsage wrote:

Have you tried formatting the partition using the Live CD before attempting the install?


Yeah, just did that now, as a ext3. But I'm still getting sent to BusyBox after an ACPI error.

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

headkorn1812 wrote:
pvsage wrote:

Have you tried formatting the partition using the Live CD before attempting the install?


Yeah, just did that now, as a ext3. But I'm still getting sent to BusyBox after an ACPI error.

try -noapic or -nolapic or -noacpi

I used to get similar errors on my desktop, use those flags to the end of the boot command. (so right at the first screen of the livecd, i think you press f6 or something to append to the command)

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I can't edit the boot options.

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Okay, after trying anything I could think of (minus editing the boot options before burning the disc) nothing is working. So, I'll just go to another distro that will actually work.

Thanks for trying.

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

what do you mean you can't edit the boot options? Could you give more info about why you can't?

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

Also, if you can get ubuntu 9.04 to run, you can run a script after installation to turn it into #! (you'll want to use the ubuntu mini iso / minimal install)

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

Well if he is trying to "editing the boot options before burning the disc" he obviously did not understand your suggestion. 

It's strange, but in all my workings with Linux, I have never seen a solid basic install guide with troubleshooting.  There really ought to be a guide like that that starts from the ground up, instead of "Download it, burn it, pop it in, reboot, try it, like it, click Install."  Ubuntu's install page to this day just assumes that users already know how to burn an iso to disc, have their optical drive set as the first boot device in BIOS and will have no trouble getting into the live environment.  How many forum posts are of this nature in various distros? 

Instead of fixing the very simple issue here, it looks like headkorn got frustrated and jumped distros.  If he can't get Ubuntu or something else to work, he will most likely turn his back on Linux.

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blackbinary wrote:

what do you mean you can't edit the boot options? Could you give more info about why you can't?

What I mean is, I get to the main #! screen, (Live,  Check Disk, Memtest, Boot from HD) and tried to edit the boot options to use your suggestion, with no success. Either I don't know the right command to use, or it just won't work.

epidenimus wrote:

Well if he is trying to "editing the boot options before burning the disc" he obviously did not understand your suggestion. 

It's strange, but in all my workings with Linux, I have never seen a solid basic install guide with troubleshooting.  There really ought to be a guide like that that starts from the ground up, instead of "Download it, burn it, pop it in, reboot, try it, like it, click Install."  Ubuntu's install page to this day just assumes that users already know how to burn an iso to disc, have their optical drive set as the first boot device in BIOS and will have no trouble getting into the live environment.  How many forum posts are of this nature in various distros? 

Instead of fixing the very simple issue here, it looks like headkorn got frustrated and jumped distros.  If he can't get Ubuntu or something else to work, he will most likely turn his back on Linux.

I understand his suggestion, as I've had to append commands in the boot options on my desktop, but using other distros than #!. I also know how to burn the ISO and set my bios to boot from CD first. The main issue is, I cannot append either, -noapic or -nolapic or -noacpi flags before vmlinuz or initrd.gz are loaded. I have not found many other forum posts about this issue, except to boot with one of the flags that blackbinary suggested then to install a few packages after installation. If I find the posts, I'll show them to you.

I'm not going to turn my back on Linux, I love it and also use it quite a bit for Web Development work that I do. But if I can't get #! to work, then I'll have to try another distro.

But I will try blackbinary's other suggestion, try to install min Ubuntu and run the script.

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

Ok, so you can't get the Live environment up?  I'm pretty sure I've have had Mint 7 running live on an L505 before...

Two things come to mind:

1.  Either your image download is corrupt or your disk did not burn properly.  Have you MD5Sum-med it before burning?  Try burning on a new CD at a lower speed.

2.  Is your BIOS current and configured properly?  Sometimes there are settings that you can tinker with in there that will allow it to play nicer with a live disk.  This seems to have become more important with newer kernels.

I'm not sure how the whole BusyBox thing works as I haven't played with it before.  And I don't understand how it is standing between your BIOS and the LiveCD in booting.  More things to learn.  smile

Also, relative to partitioning, I would suggest that you use the GParted live disk to do all that.  It is a lightweight live environment with partitioning as its only purpose, so it requires less resources to run and doesn't hold your install in the balance while it works.  The version of gparted included in recent Ubuntu and derivative releases is outdated and susceptible to errors.

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Ok, so you can't get the Live environment up?  I'm pretty sure I've have had Mint 7 running live on an L505 before...

Two things come to mind:

1.  Either your image download is corrupt or your disk did not burn properly.  Have you MD5Sum-med it before burning?  Try burning on a new CD at a lower speed.

2.  Is your BIOS current and configured properly?  Sometimes there are settings that you can tinker with in there that will allow it to play nicer with a live disk.  This seems to have become more important with newer kernels.

I'm not sure how the whole BusyBox thing works as I haven't played with it before.  And I don't understand how it is standing between your BIOS and the LiveCD in booting.  More things to learn.  smile

Also, relative to partitioning, I would suggest that you use the GParted live disk to do all that.  It is a lightweight live environment with partitioning as its only purpose, so it requires less resources to run and doesn't hold your install in the balance while it works.  The version of gparted included in recent Ubuntu and derivative releases is outdated and susceptible to errors.

No, can't get the live environment running. My mistake if I didn't make that clear in the original post. I've always downloaded the ISO images from the proper sites and checked the MD5 Sum before burning it, every time they were fine. I've used Nero, ImgBurn, Windows Disc Burner, all on low speeds.

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I got Ubuntu 9.04 installed. More problems arose with that though.

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Re: Toshiba Satellite L505D Installation Issue

I have a Toshiba L505 laptop, and have had nothing but trouble installing Ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04 on it.  I finally figured it out and made a quick writeup to help others with this problem.  http://www.wnemay.com/2010/linux/ubuntu … 05-laptop/