• Registered: 2010-07-31
  • Posts: 15

Topic: required GTK engines

Don't sure where to put this. Anyway! I'm currently reading about creating GtkThemes and stumbled upon the fact that you can use different engines for your themes. So I'm not a big friend of making themes that work with other engines than the basic one and wanted to know - it is necessary to keep the packages gtk2-themes, gtk2-themes-murrine, gtk2-themes-pixbuf on my system if I only use themes that rely on the builtin engine? I don't use clearlooks and so on - I just want to make a minimal, custom theme.

I also noticed that most themes installed with CrunchBang 9.04 (using lxappearance's preview) just don't look different from the normal GNOME theme. Is it intended? From a user's point-of-view I could imagine that they use engines not beeing installed on CB 9.04.

I really have no idea, anybody experienced with Gtk themes?

Kekskiller's Website

  • From: California, USA
  • Registered: 2008-11-29
  • Posts: 8,647

Re: required GTK engines

Kekskiller wrote:

it is necessary to keep the packages gtk2-themes, gtk2-themes-murrine, gtk2-themes-pixbuf on my system if I only use themes that rely on the builtin engine? I don't use clearlooks and so on - I just want to make a minimal, custom theme.

You can remove murrine and pixbuf. I don't know what package "gtk2-themes" is though, check the name.

Kekskiller wrote:

I also noticed that most themes installed with CrunchBang 9.04 (using lxappearance's preview) just don't look different from the normal GNOME theme. Is it intended? From a user's point-of-view I could imagine that they use engines not beeing installed on CB 9.04.

Possibly

Note: ** Please read before posting **

BTW if you wish to contact me, send me an e-mail instead of a PM.
  • pvsage
  • Internal Affairs
  • Offline
  • From: Section Six
  • Registered: 2009-10-18
  • Posts: 4,840

Re: required GTK engines

Many of the default themes have very small differences, even with every gtk2-engine-* package installed.  For example, the only difference I see between Simple-Slate and Orange-fog is the highlight color.  (There might be a bigger difference in XFCE or Metacity; I'm referring to their appearance in Openbox without a WM.)

while ( ! ( succeed = try() ) );
  • From: California, USA
  • Registered: 2008-11-29
  • Posts: 8,647

Re: required GTK engines

@pvsage - GTK themes should look the same regardless of WM or DE. And Openbox is a WM.

Note: ** Please read before posting **

BTW if you wish to contact me, send me an e-mail instead of a PM.
  • pvsage
  • Internal Affairs
  • Offline
  • From: Section Six
  • Registered: 2009-10-18
  • Posts: 4,840

Re: required GTK engines

In XFCE, some of the XFWM themes are influenced more by the GTK themes than others.  Mostly it's just a matter of whether or not elements of the XFWM theme are affected by the GTK color palate.  (e.g. Coolclean and Crux are not influenced by GTK colors, but Coldsteel and Cruxish are.)  I think this true for many Metacity themes as well.

while ( ! ( succeed = try() ) );
  • Registered: 2010-07-31
  • Posts: 15

Re: required GTK engines

Uhm, ok. So I guess I can savely delete them (especially since I read that there are themes with no theme engines, like Raleigh, which I currently use) and replace them with lighter ones without theme engine depencies.

Kekskiller's Website

  • pvsage
  • Internal Affairs
  • Offline
  • From: Section Six
  • Registered: 2009-10-18
  • Posts: 4,840

Re: required GTK engines

Well, Raleigh *does* use a theme engine - it uses GTK's built-in engine.  In fact, Raleigh is an empty theme that uses the GTK defaults.

while ( ! ( succeed = try() ) );