Topic: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I've messed around with sidux a bit, and like that sidux has managed to use a "stripped down" version of KDE to keep the system light and uber easy to use.  Has there been any consideration to use a light, minimal KDE for CrunchBang?  Is this something that users of the distro would be interested in exploring for existing or new users?

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I'd say no. And as you mentioned, there already is a distro that provides what you're suggesting... sidux. That being said, a lightweight version of a full blown desktop environment, KDE, is still a far cry from a lightweight window manager. A skinny elephant is still a lot bigger than a hare.

Now I'm sure that there may be people interested in what you're suggesting, and if so, try sidux. I've run it in the past as well. It's a great distro. But many people here fall primarily into two categories: those who use older, slower hardware, and who would still find a light KDE DE bloated and cumbersome, and those who are obsessive in tweaking, optimizing and minimizing their systems footprint. Not because they run older machines, but just for fun. The rest, they just like the simplicity of #! or like creating a setup piecemeal.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. Why not tackle a light KDE environment yourself? Might be fun!

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I agree with hikeasaurus

I mean yeah it is a neat idea to add the K to runchbang.. but..

Crunchbang currently is light, fast and amazing. I use crunchbang for openbox.
And of course the amazing community/developer/people

But, yeah. Try it out yourself sometime!

I once installed gentoo. It asked me for a sacrifice and would not install itself unless I gave him my neighbor's first born and my best bottle of Whiskey.  -Awebb 2011

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I wouldn't protest it; but I wouldn't use it either. Ever.

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

Thanks for the input so far.  I've run #! in Openbox and Xfce, and like both.  I guess I just have a thing for KDE since the first distro I really gave any kind of chance to was KDE based, and I'm used to it.  smile

Please continue to post ideas, interest, lack of interest, insults, momma-jokes, etc about this idea.  Let me know what you think.

"Love should not fear or be feared."  --Josh Senic

Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit, switching back to #! 64-bit very soon
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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

yo momma is so bloated, if she was a desktop environment, she would be KDE! *snap*

hows that?

how about

I thought KDE was yo mommas nickname coz everyone say how slow it is! *zing*

better? smile

Last edited by mrpeachy (2010-09-02 00:56:06)

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

mrpeachy wrote:

yo momma is so bloated, if she was a desktop environment, she would be KDE! *snap*

hows that?

how about

I thought KDE was yo mommas nickname coz everyone say how slow it is! *zing*

better? smile

LOL! Awesome!

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I used to use openbox with KDE apps and I also tried openbox in place of kwin. Both worked really well. From my experience if I had to choose a DE it would be KDE. I'm a fan. KDE's apps seem to work better and be more feature full then, say Gnome's and KDE has made some huge leaps with the 4 series. For the record I hated the 3 series.

I fall in the category of "small footprint tweakers", but I still like an application to work well and do the right amount of things. Being said, IMO k3b is the best disc burning utility I've used, koffice is coming along really well and is lighter then OpenOffice, ktorrent is awesome and i have a big soft spot for kate.

Now-a-days I use a majority GTK stuff or terminal apps. Pcmanfm, Audacious, Gimp and so on. I also use a lot of LXDE's stuff. Like anything though it's different strokes for different folks. A "krunchbang" spin-off would be cool, but how would you do it? I mean it's becoming just as impossible to have gnome anything without a bunch of clutter you don't want. Just my opinion, but I think in the long run KDE might become the more viable DE out there. wink

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

yo momma is sooo stupid, she thinks that right clicking on the KDE desktop if for timing her hard boiled eggs! *shazam*

(coz it takes so long from when you click to something coming up etc... ) smile

thats probably enough of that!

Last edited by mrpeachy (2010-09-02 01:26:23)

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I am a huge KDE fan as well, and I have to say if someone did something like this, the most reasonable way would just be to contiue to run openbox in place of Kwin, but run a KDE session. This should still allow for things like Plasma-Desktop, even though it would stop things like Compiz.

I think KDE gets a bad rap from Kubuntu, and I would be all for a Krunchbang, however it would be sort of hard to distance from all the other middleweight KDE/Debian distros like Mepis and Sidux. Keeping OpenBox as the Window manager while running KDE would really be the only real way to distance the distro from those other ones.

Then again, my OpenBox setup is running Dolphin, K3B, and Kmix these days, so I suppose I am already halfway there. Previously I was running Knetworkmanager as well, but I will give the new interface time to mature.... And I am still undecided on Ktorrent vs Qbittorrent.....

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

i do agree with the fact that KDE has some of my favourite apps out there, especially Konquerer!!

I once installed gentoo. It asked me for a sacrifice and would not install itself unless I gave him my neighbor's first born and my best bottle of Whiskey.  -Awebb 2011

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

As Val_B pointed out, the KDE bantamweight division already has plenty of contenders, several of which have been mentioned above.  Besides, no matter how much we discuss CrunchBang, in the end it is still Philip's distro, and I've never seen anything on this forum to suggest he has any interest in KDE.  Doesn't mean anyone can't try building a KDE/Openbox system and re-wrapping it with Debian Live.

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

@mrpeachy: You a hilarious dude!  big_smile  You've got momma joke skills.

@Val: I think the difference in the idea of "KrunchBang" and Mepis is that Mepis sucks.  I like sidux fine, but I really like the idea that you suggested of KDE + Openbox.  Still, I can run the KDE apps I love in Xfce or OB, as you mentioned.

@pvsage: True.  If #! were to go in this direction, Phillip would ultimately make that decision.  I just think is would be a cool idea to bring KDE to this party as #! is the Linux that I seem to keep coming back to, and KDE is the DE that I've come to favor.  Even though it can be as bloated as my momma.  big_smile

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

OK, I have a few Ideas for different #! spinoffs:

  • XBashBang - A minimal and lightweight distro centered around a minimal X setup and a single terminal window.

  • KrautBang - A minimal and lightweight distro, only packages compiled in Germany are allowed.

  • ValveBang - A minimal and lightweight distro centered around Wine and Steam.

  • UltimateBang - A minimal and lightweight distro with EVERY package in the repos installed.

  • MiniBang - A minimal and lightweight distro consisting of a minimal debian netinst and some #! branding in the boot screen.

  • GangBang - A minimal and lightweight distro designed around creating rap music and organizing gold chains.

I'm too tired to insult you in a proper way, just woke up, so...

I tried this too. A minimal KDE desktop. I installed a basic Arch Linux, configured XOrg and installed the core packages of KDEmod (split packages of KDE to make it slim), installed a few applications (only basic stuff) and la voila I was at around 3GiB HDD consumption and at around 310MiB of RAM after just booting into the system. Imagin squashing this to fit on a CD-R...

The moment you install KDE on #!, it looses it's crunchieness and becomes a boring Debian box.

pvsage wrote:

Doesn't mean anyone can't try building a KDE/Openbox system and re-wrapping it with Debian Live.

Exactly. Instead of lurking forums and discussing these topics, one could also simply make a KrunchBang. It goes like: Install #!, remove everything non-KDE-ish, install KDE packages, find tranquility.

groovydaddy wrote:

Please continue to post ideas, interest, lack of interest, insults, momma-jokes, etc about this idea.  Let me know what you think.

Yo mommah installs packages witch checkinstall on slackware.

Last edited by Awebb (2010-09-02 08:10:11)

I'm so meta, even this acronym

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

Kubuntu so bloated, it saw yo momma and thought it was looking in a mirror.

Awebb wrote:
  • ValveBang - A minimal and lightweight distro centered around Wine and Steam.

Wouldn't that be SteamPunkBang? tongue  To me, ValveBang would run on vacuum tubes.

Awebb wrote:
  • UltimateBang - A minimal and lightweight distro with EVERY package in the repos installed.

Bit of an oxymoron? hmm lol

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

lol AWebb, I like them all. big_smile

  • KrautBang - A minimal and lightweight distro, only packages compiled in Germany are allowed.

My favorit cool

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I once went to get a KDE4 tattoo, but the tattoo artist said he didn't have the 54 different kinds of ink it required. Stupid dependencies.

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

I believe that your mother is lacking of intellectual acuity as she installed Kbuntu on her old Athlon XP computer and now she seems to be under the impression that KDE stands for "Kant Do Enything!".

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

z3r0_k00l75 wrote:

I once went to get a KDE4 tattoo, but the tattoo artist said he didn't have the 54 different kinds of ink it required. Stupid dependencies.

That is the greatest thing ever!

I once installed gentoo. It asked me for a sacrifice and would not install itself unless I gave him my neighbor's first born and my best bottle of Whiskey.  -Awebb 2011

Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

lol this must be the funniest thread ever here ..... lol

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Re: Has "KrunchBang#!" been considered?

LMAO!!  I just read through all this, and though my intention was not the comedy in the thread, I'm happy to see the sense of humor in this community.  big_smile

Thanks to all for your input, and I'll be sure to send a copy of Kubuntu to all #! mommas for Christmas!!  lol

"Love should not fear or be feared."  --Josh Senic

Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit, switching back to #! 64-bit very soon
HP Probook Laptop, i3 (first gen), 8GB RAM