I don't know a thing about all that both projects do to put out a distro, but at this point in time it seems that the duplication of effort could be done away with by merging ? AntiX is based on Mepis but that is a technicality, it is basically debian with fluxbox and IceWM. Now that you are debian based, too...

B

The same Nvidia driver works all day in Pclinuxos for some reason

I don't know if any of you have tried it, or have seen the many, many long forum threads in ubuntu, its derivatives and the Linuxquestions forums, but it has been a nightmare for me. It has more issues than Mackenzie Phillips, more problems than a Chinese math book.

1. it seems that the problem may be kernel related ? people try to isolate it to the fglrx or Nvidia proprietary drivers, but it happens with both. When I let the ubuntu update upgrade me from 9.04 to 9.10, the X broke badly. I assumed it was an upgrade glitch - shite happens. Well, 9.10 won't even boot for me, it crashes X and just flickers with Mint, ubuntu and any derivative - won't even install. As I said, lots of forum posts about this and just complaining, no real fixes just lots of lengthy suggestions.

Might want to pass on this release for #!CB ? The next release from ubuntu is an LTS, I believe so that ought to be a ringer for stability, they have their work cut out for them with 9.10 as its precursor.

B

Thanks. I will go ahead and install those same ubuntu packages for my printer, then.

As for the difference between starting with a minimal install and CB lite. That is a good question. The answer is... we'll see.... But, I do like deciding, to the degree allowed by metapackages, what to install and the capacity to configure it as I go.

Do you guys like Brasero and grip ? I LOVE K3b but I am not going to install all of its necessary dependencies. If grip and Brasero are pretty good solutions then I might be done after installing those. I pretty much will have everything else covered once the printers work and I can rip and burn.

Thanks,

B.

Also, as cool as CB is, I am still too much of a novice for the WM. When I installed new packages with synaptic, I had a hard time getting the menu updated properly to where my menu edit actually launched the program. I know that it must be simple, but I still botched it up. So, I had several dead menu links to both uninstalled programs and programs that I had installed. Gnome does all of that for me without any input. This whole experiment is probably the rebound from using "Ultimate Edition" - my main distro for a year - which is a 3.2 GB ubuntu that literally has so many multimedia apps that with my 1600x1200 monitor I had to scroll! through the "sound & video" entry of the gnome menu to see them all. No joke. The last Jaunty based "ultimate edition" that I had  installed was the KDE, Gnome and XFCE edition - man that thing was LOADED. This experiment is a repentance of sorts.

Hi,

For the heck of it I installed Jaunty from a minimal install CD. I like going light and in complete control. There is where the problem lies - the control part - ubuntu has a lot of BIG packages for everything. I need to get my printer working but I am hoping that there is a lighter alternative - probably what CB uses - compared to the ubuntu packages of CUPS and "system-config-printer".

As an aside, I started with the minimal install CD, then installed Gnome-core, Picasa, Swiftfox and plugins (mplayer, flash), VLC, SMplayer, Openoffice, gedit, ubuntu tweak, BUM (boot-up manager), start-up manager, ntfs-3g, gtkhash and ultamatix (an easy repository based software installer).
I really it this way. I want few packages, not necessarily light ones as evidenced by OpenOffice and Swiftfox.

Similarly, I want to get my Brother all-in-one laser and my Epson PictureMate (little photo printer) running without having to install a Linux distro's worth of packages if that is possible....

got any ideas.

I want to do this project again without caving in and going with gnome / gdm. I am thinking of using iceWM or Openbox with the next long-term support ubuntu and going REALLY frugal (probably the same packages as above plus multimedia).

B.

I have googled and everything else that I can think of but I only could come up with a midori and an Opera repository.

Do you guys have repos or PPAs for any of the other browsers:

Midori
chromium
Arora
Opera (especially 10 beta, I don't like 9.x much)
netsurf. the netsurf in the ubuntu repos is 1.2, there is a .tar for 2.1 at the netsurf site.
kazehakase

thanks,

B

Do the #!CRUNCHBANG reposoitories have newer versions of these browsers than the ubuntu repos ? I tried them all but noticed that some of the versions offered through the ubuntu repos are kind of old.

If they are fresher in CB can I add the CB Jaunty repo to my ubuntu installation as well?

Yeah, I think you're right. I married the vein, so to speak. I have become obsessed with small and tidy. An extra installation of Firefox is just fine. Besides, I am probably going to install other browsers anyway. I like them.

I don't want to bring up the older thread which has been dead for nearly a week, unless a moderator wants to move my question to that thread - that's fine.

I have been using Firefox almost exclusively. I did not like Opera 9.X because it was too hard to control Flash and Java content. Sometimes if a page had a ton of Sh*t going on, Opera would lock up on me. I could easily view the same page with FF due to good extensions like Adblock +, Flashblock and NoScript!
Anyway... not an ad for the extension developers...  I am just wondering which of the alternative browsers is taking you away from FF and why.

How full featured are they: can you watch Youtube videos, stream audio and video with MPlayer like you can with FF ? Are they stable? All around, sell me on one or more of these:

Midori
chromium
Arora
Opera (especially 10 beta, I don't like 9.x much)
netsurf
kazehakase

I tried Dillo and Galeon and they were waaaay too limited and spartan for me. Youtube and streaming .wma and .wmv content is absolutely essential or I am not happy.

Thanks.

I will watch this post for a few more days and see if your system blows up before I do anything risky ; >   I wish I knew 1/3 as much about all of this as you do...

Exact Audio Copy. Nothing like it in Linux that I know of.

I installed Jaunty from scratch (minimal install CD) for the first time, but I wimped out a little and installed gdm and gnome-core to make it familiar and quicker. I want to make another partition and start from scratch again but using lighter software - probably lxde and/or iceWM. Some of the Linux for old computer sites imply that slim is significantly lighter to warrant using it instead of gdm or kdm.

Is that so ?

If so, would I be able to select at login whether to use iceWM or lxde (assumeing they are both installed, of course) as one can do with gdm or kdm ?

Thanks,
B

Please, someone, if it isn't too hard, make a Mplayer / Mplayer plugin complex  that does not care which browser is installed. Or, at least it can check for a gecko browser of any stripe and vintage: iceape, iceweasel, epiphany, seamonkey, FF, ubuntuzilla's FF, swiftfox, etc...

Ditto, for the Sun Java 6 plugin.

I have tried every which way that I can think of to get this done. But, in the end, installing Java or Mplayers plugins installs FF3.0. I have never tried to do a "sudo dpkg --force-depends -r firefox-3.0" mostly because I did not know how. Uninstalling FF 3.0 without force depends removes the plugins that I wanted to begin with.

I installed ubuntuzilla by the way, it does not change things one bit...

I appreciate the replies. I was asking, apparently poorly, for something else though.

What I want is MPlayer plugin and Sun plugin, without having to install another browser. Firefox 3.0.x comes along with with both of the plugins as far as I can tell. All of my Firefox extensions do work with swiftfox.

as for the tweezers, I definitly agree.

Thanks,

b

Hi,

Nobody could help in the ubuntu forum, hope you don't mind seeing if you can help-

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1234149

I installed Swiftfox 3.5.2 in a minimal ubuntu installation (starting with minimal install CD). The problem is that every plugin that I want to install: Mplayer plugin and Sun Java  plugin insist on installing the old Firefox 3.0.12.  Even if I install the FF branded 3.5.2, I still have to have the old version of FF to have my plugins. This seems stupid... really stupid to me, but I don't have to maintain packages for a distribution.

What I want is the new 3.5 version of FF or Swiftfox running with the plugins and to not have an old browser installed as a dependency for my plugins... I have never succeeded in getting the sun plugin installed from the direct Sun download. I can actually live without Java but streaming web media is a MUST. The gecko-mediaplayer also wants to install the old FF. VLC and its Firefox plugin seem to be second rate compared to Mplayer.

Can you help ? Any ideas ?

Thanks for all of your responses.

It is actually not light but spartan that I am looking for. I don't want several multimedia apps as SMPlayer will do everything as will VLC, except with VLC, you end up having to install MPlayer to have a better Firefox. So, skip it altogether.

OpenOffice, however heavy, is irreplaceable but, no need for abiword and gnumeric with it, etc...


I just want a handful of apps.

Thanks again

Hi,

I want to strip a full CB installation down to its bare bones and start adding from there. I thought about a CB lite installation but it is not really what I want as it has all the apps, but lighter versions. I think what I want is an ubuntu based distro with a light Window Manager (such as CB ?) with synaptic, FF, SMPlayer, CUPS, Picasa and OpenOffice and maybe nothing else for my desktop. Is anyone nice enough to write an apt-get script that will strip CB down to pretty much nothing but: the necessities to have OpenBox working, the NIC for my cable network working and synaptic ? This way I can start afresh with a very, very, very light installation.

Perhaps there could be a CB minimal install edition in the future ? Newbies can't or don't want to mess with getting X and window managers working, but a super stripped down CB with Openbox working just as well as the full install would be a terrific starting point with synaptic up and running to continue from there. The perfect scenario seems to be a light window manager distro, just synaptic to add more stuff and a huge, proven repository with other repos to be added.

Just my .02.

B.

I assume that the difference is mostly or only applications, so what is left out of the Lite version ?

Thanks.

I did update using that PPA and the choices did not change - Verizon is still not there.

Hi,

I use Ubuntu 8.10 and CB based on 8.10. The weird thing is that I was able to set up my ev-do broadband wireless card in ubuntu by simply selecting verizon in the wizard as the carrier, then following the brainless steps. CB, however, does not have Verizon as a choice, many others seem to be absent as well. The same network manager is in both distros.

Any Ideas?

Thanks,

B

I have a logitech trackball and a 20 inch 1600x1200 screen. It takes too much rolling of the trackball to cover the real estate. How can I make the mouse move further with each rotation of the ball?

Hi,

I upload picture files to an ftp server. I can't do much about my upload speed but I think that a multi-thread upload may yield the same kind of improvements that a multi-thread download yields. Any ideas ?


Thanks,

b

Thanks.

Hi,

I use both browsers on several computers with Ubuntu and/or Windows. The problem is obvious... any new bookmark added can only be sync'd with the like browser across the different platforms, i.e. use Opera link to log-in and sync all of the Opera browser's bookmarks or, similarly, use Foxmarks to keep the Firefoxes up to date.

What I am looking for is the ability to keep both Opera and Firefox sync'd with eachother without having to import and export html files.

Any working ideas ? Remember, has to work in Linux and Windows, too.
Thanks,

b.

Hi,

I like Crunchbang a lot. I have it on a SATA drive's 3rd partition. The first two partitions have Ubuntu 64 and Ubuntu 32 bit OS's. Those both use Gnome and I have added the Gnome toolbar applet that lets you mount the partitions and disks with one click (I have 2 other disks that are FAT32 for music, pictures, etc...)

How can I easily mount these other disks and partitions with Crunchbang ? Sometimes I go to play a song with VLC and I can't, of course, because that partition is not mounted.

Thanks,

b