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huh?

If ever I am distro hunting, I just search a few forums. Particularly Arch and this forum. A quick google for whatever distros I'm interested in, or whatever type of distro, and I am good to go.

I could probably take on both, as they are smaller jobs.

If you could both email me with some more details, I'd be happy to help

{ fellgrail@gmail.com please!}

I admit i feel lost when I have windows over top of other windows.

In Windows and Linux, you have a listing of each window on the taskbar, so you can pick the one you want.
In OSX, you have the icon. thats it. I find i can quickly go into expose to pick out the window, but that seems a little awkward.

Thanks for the input jackbang, thats helps me out a bit.

I can't separate to FOSS software because of my reliance on Adobe programs.
On top of this, my main use will be doing work. Which is why I do not worry about the lack of customization.
I can have crunchbang in a VM, and use that for general stuff if I really want to (or dual boot).

Like i said, i would get a machine with the hardware the mac has, even if it was windows, simply because of how good the current hardware is.

I agree I've found the whole 'apps can be open without having a window' thing confusing. I will try to remember to use the menubar and select quit. I wish at least there would be an indicator on the dock to tell you what apps are running.

But even with the inconsistencies you mentioned, I find it more familiar to me then windows ever did.

The new macbook pro is pretty much worth every penny. There service plans / warrenties are very pricy though, sure.
And i guess if you had a lot of software you needed to buy again, then it could add up.

And yea, I don't like how locked down they are. Their walled-garden approach is pretty much the opposite of linux. Luckily I can install linux if I like.

As far as DRM on android phones... its not really the case. Some try to lock the bootloader, though I can't think of any phones at the moment that have been out >6 months and aren't rooted. I think the worry with android is warrenty issues with rooting, and free use of tethering (which you are "supposed" to buy their plan for).

Also the nice thing is I can still install Linux to get my FOSS fix

Oh, i'm quite aware of the background of OSX.

Heck you can run X11 if you like.
I was just surprised. I guess Ubuntu is pushing for a GUI closer to Apple.
I thought OSX was supposed to be for 'simple' users. because it 'just works' lol, so seeing more advanced options easily available, was nice. I think maybe apple just chose to make the most common ones easily available.

And I wasn't trying to say that Apple copied anything from Linux. Just that it seemed more like Linux then Windows. Which is a big bonus

@clockwork, there is an old thread I made about xfce vs openbox when statler was released. You can dig it up if you like, and people posted their ram usage there.

In general your looking at somewhere are 60MB give or take 15MB for 32bit, and about 100MB +/- 15 for 64bit.

Which really doesn't matter, unless your running on 256 of ram or something.

And yea, like the link anon give says, linux is just speeding up your system for you. Really nothing to worry about, and going by conky is a better idea.

cool, I think i've got enough now anyways. Mind sharing a link to the site bobrossw?

Only reason to not use 64bit is if you have a very low amount of ram.