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oh, now i realize there is a closed topic that may have something to do with this : http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … art-page/. i tried searching "home page" and "start page" and got no meaningful results.
i wonder if there can be a compromise between revenue and usability, for example, by providing an alternate start page that we can set as default. if this topic is inappropiate to be discussed publicly please let me know privately.
hi all,
not an urgent issue, now that ubuntu 9.04 is on its way. i am talking about http://crunchbanglinux.org/start/. this is the page that opens up when starting a new firefox window. crunchbang users are somehow expected to use it in order to provide a bit of revenue for the project from google.
however, for a long time this is not possible, at least for me. there are 2 reasons :
1) page load is slow and takes several steps. even when i just want to open a new window, i am forced me to press ^T (new tab) right after pressing ^N (new window) in order to have load in the backgroud. this is because if i click ^L to change the URL, a few moments after the browser focus goes to the search text field. quite inconvenient.
2) results customization : the results that i get when i do a regular search are not suited for me. it's not the same as when i do a search on a regular http://google.cat page. there is something about and search engine and web search.
in short, perhaps there is many people who find the start page useful and convenient, but it's not my case. a pity, because i'd like to contribute by using it.
btw, i've noticed that since i started using crunchbang linux (november 2008 or so) its distrowatch rating has gone from position #98 to #57 2 months ago, to #35 right now. congratulations!
nice to know. i had been wondering where were all tasks, tickets, code, etc. my opinion : so far the quality and success and #! is due to the talent and good taste of corenominal and his trusted people. if the project starts growing, it may become chaotic, there are plenty of FOSS project that have failed because of ego fights. my advice : manage this project with a friendly-dictatorial style. something like svn or the linux kernel (not being necessary to offend people, as torvalds is reported to to sometimes). it's not possible to make happy everybody, and to me, so far so good.
hi, thanks, but it does not work, it's a bit the same as the other advice posted before 
for some reason, alsamixer / alsamixergui / xfce4-mixer can't interact with the usb speakers.
i even tried as follows, without success :
# cd /dev
# mv dsp dspX
# mv dsp1 dsp
# mv dspX dsp1btw, lsusb gives (USB speakers are the C-Media entry) :
root@crunchbang:~# lsusb
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 15ca:00c3 Textech International Ltd. Mini Optical Mouse
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0d8c:0103 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b4:6560 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. CY7C65640 USB-2.0 "TetraHub"
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hubTry the advice posted here:
hi,
Not sure if this will help but run the command "xfce4-mixer" and see if anything in there will do it.
the program you mention is the one i quoted as volume-control in my first post.
Try typing "cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp" in a terminal and see if you get any sound. If theres no sound then try "cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp1".
indeed, dsp produce sound on the laptop built-in speakers, and dsp1 produces sound on the USB speakers. this goes on the direction pointed to by my first email, but for some reason xfce4-mixer can't use the USB speakers, or hopefully, i don't know how to use it.
thanks for your reply, but ... i'm sorry, i don't understand what you mean, or how or where do it. could you be more specific?
some audio device have a digital option........... disable it in case...
bye
hi, any1 here has USB speakers working?
apparently, mine are detected by the system. when i enter on volume control, on the device combo after menu options File / Options i can select between 0 (intel, the laptop built-in speakers), and 1 (C-Media USB audio). i have similar options using alsamixer, and this device selection seems to be equivalent as typing
alsamixer -c 1 # -- or -c 0.
when i select 1 (USB), i only get a PCM control, and i never get to hear anything on the USB speakers. btw, on windows the speakers work.
any hints? this is what lsmod yields (seems to be correct)
bulma@crunchbang:~$ lsmod | grep usb
snd_usb_audio 89728 0
snd_usb_lib 24192 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_hwdep 15236 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_pcm 83204 5 snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_rawmidi 29824 2 snd_usb_lib,snd_seq_midi
snd 63268 16 snd_usb_audio,snd_hwdep,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
usbhid 35840 0
hid 50560 1 usbhid
usbcore 148848 6 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcdthanks!
the point of a minimalist IM it's nice. i had tried SKIM (i am an almost-former kubuntu user), and i had problems setting it up, depending on the kubuntu release, i guess it's because of mix of IM with non-US keyboard layout / keyboard manager.
i have not yet managed to input chinese, but i am almost there. i have the typical pop up with chinese letters.
my procedure has been your first link, baidu.com (nice try, but my chinese is not as good as to be able to read the other links . however, i have not followed it exactly. used synaptic, fictx it's there.
when i find out what's not letting me input chinese, i may try to make a wiki page for having CJK and chinese IM on crunchbang.
For a Chinese friend, I successfully installed a Chinese IME for CrunchBang Linux. My research on the 'Net indicated that usual SCIM software
was more complicated than necessary and in the spirit of minimalism, I installed the fcitx IME software instead. Unfortunately, I do not remember the exact details or links. I do not recall using Synaptic package manager for anything, instead using CLI debs and editing a config file or two.These might be good starting links:
http://hi.baidu.com/yilinghl/blog/item/ … f1a59.html
http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/fcitx
http://www.fcitx.org/main/
http://www.fcitx.org/main/?q=node/139
rfquerin wrote:You could do a real simple #! logo that would get people saying "WTF is that??"
and then have the little URL somewhere to fill them in.
Cool idea, no matter what graphic is used.LOVE THAT!
#! on the front in the pocket area over the left breast
then centered on the back in small type at the top 'crunchbanglinux.org'
Michael
i had the same idea initially, but i don't think it's necessary to make the URL explicit. the original logo as it appears on http://crunchbanglinux.org/start/ is enough. reasons :
a) if somebody googles that text, there are not many possibilities
b) if somebody reads "linux" and know what linux is, he'll get the message. if does not know what linux is, anyhow that person won't use it
hi, any suggestions (perhaps a poll?) about an official #! tshirt?
i'd like something based on rfguerin's variations here, but i also like the default logo, perhaps they can be combined?
i have not checked the artwork packages yet, if there is something out there that can be a good base for a tshirt let us know.
the default font in terminator looks nice enough for me.
i also like the default ones in xterm, with their different style in their different size (-fn 7x14, -fn 8x16, -fn 10x20).
btw,
man terminatordoes not seem to contain any help on how to change the font. any hints?
also, somebody know a way to see installed and easily installable fonts in crunchbang?
my very first distro was some very old slackware, i don't know if 2.0 or 2.1, back in ... november 1994 . i used it mostly as a thin client against the university suns and decs for chip design. i had it installed by a then already linux guru! i was impressed at how he could tune xf86config manually.
at home my first one was a redhat 5.1 (or was it 5.2?), by the end of 1995. a few months later i bought a magazine with debian potato 2.2. yes, there was a time when people bought computer magazines just to get the linux cds . i think i still keep these cds.
since then i have used many others, as i have mentioned in this post.
at this post i mentioned i came to #! after trying fluxbuntu amongst many other
distros. fluxbuntu was promising, but i've had to dump it after i had some problems
with X configuration. on my laptop, X only started successfully 1 out of 3-4 times, i had to
reboot in order to retry getting the login prompt. another reason for my quest is that fluxbuntu
latest version was based on ubuntu 7.10, 8.04 and 8.10 were never released. now the project
seems to be active again, and a 8.10 version seems on the way (now, in 2009.01).
needless to say, what i liked in fluxbuntu is the same as in #! : ubuntu base + no bloat.
i am not at all willing to raise flames, but now that i've found #! i see the existence of
fluxbuntu as a duplicate effort. i am of course not questioning the right of everybody to
work on the FOSS project of choice, but my concern is that if efforts on the 2 projects are
joined, i believe everybody will benefit.
are there any (former) fluxbuntu users / developers here? do you see any conceptual
differences, besides that one uses fluxbox, and the other openbox as wm / desktop? is
there any way to merge / reuse efforts?
AlexelA,
it did not just help, it was to the point and perfect. thanks so much!
setxkbmap is part of the solution you're looking for, marc. All you need to do is assign the keyboard layout to a unique key combination in in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml
...
Save. Restart Openbox to effectuate your changes.
Hope this helps.
after i posted i browsed the forums and saw some info about openbox resources in
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … resources/
but i found nothing useful regarding this issue.
(g)vim, bash, svn, kdiff3, ssh, bzr, konqueror, ...
i was about to post about how to use CJK under #! and i am glad i found this post. i can witness
that newvegas solution (thanks) about that package allows to properly read CJK (chinese - japanese
- korean) pages. i also installed package tty-wqy-zenhei. i believe properly managing CJK is a must
if #! expects to go somehow mainstream (i believe it deserves it).
so, +1 about including these packages in the default installation.
i will also experiment about CJK input (i.e. not just reading CJK pages, but also being able to
input CJK characters). ubuntu uses scim, and kubuntu skim. linpus linux (the default distro
in the aspire one) wonderfully manages using all kind of keyboard layouts (i.e. english / spanish)
but also english / CJK. my kudos to linpus, which IMO is being unfairly dismissed by
AA1 users : many distros have a lot to learn from linpus regarding usability.
Trouble'n'strife wrote:NewCityVegas wrote:In early 2009 I plan to start a new local multicultural message board http://lasvalley.com/mixx/ that caters to local ethnic and regional groups.
Shameless self-promotion!
Yeah, I'm sure there are lots of other Las Vegas residents here.
I am a bit concerned, however, with the Euro/Anglo-centric nature of new distros considering that Asia has the most internet users of any continent.
How do you accommodate/encourage asian participation when their language is not, by default, supported. Should asian fonts be included by default? Should a "possible things to do after installation" script/link be visible on the desktop after installation to make it easier for the less technical to get started with CrunchBang?
so far, swj's solution is fine, but i'd like more. most bloated desktops (kde, gnome, linpus's xfce, etc) allow
to change keyboard layout *on the fly*. but apparently, openbox not. even if there is not a
GUI-based feature to do that, i am sure it is possible to do it : during #! installation, the user
is asked which keyboard layout he desires, and after that, keyboard layout is changed, without
X restart.
is there anybody who know how to this (change keyboard layout on openbox)?
i am aware this is not the most necessary feature on a desktop, but it'd be nice to have. i like
to use US keyboard when i am working, but when i have to write in catalan (my native language)
or spanish, i need to use special keys (like è, à, ç, í, etc), as happens to most non native english
speakers.
thanks,
swj wrote:Is this what you are looking for?
yes, somehow. i'd like to know how to have the US keyboard at bootup (not only inside openbox), but anyhow, it's great now. thanks!
thanks for the feedback, and thanks for making #! available. it's really nice. it's also nice to see that
you are so responsive to users. hopefully, what you mentioned about detecting restricted drivers
should be fine. i just noticed that mint 6.0 has a similar option that pops up automatically.
corenominal wrote:marc wrote:perhaps it'd be nice to warn the user that a propietary driver is avalable. for users who don't know or don't remember the graphic card on the computer it may be useful.
Agreed, I will look into it. Glad to read you managed to get it sorted!
Note to self: adding the following to Openbox's autostart file should force the restricted drivers manager to check for any available drivers:
#Check for restricted drivers jockey-gtk --check &If restricted drivers are available, the notification daemon should inform the user and an icon will become available in the system tray.
hi, most of my reasons to use #! have already been mentioned here. basically :
1. ubuntu repository base. i do not use freaky packages, but i am used to them
2. no bloat, compared to kubuntu (i used to prefer kde to gnome), or even xubuntu
3. things work out of the box, no need to use secret repos or other gnu-puritan inconveniences
lately i have mostly been using kubuntu (last 3-4 years), before i used kde on debian, but was looking for some lightweight alternatives, which led me to zenwalk (pity it was not ubuntu based), easys (featuring a lightweight KDE, it was very nice, konqueror it's quite cool), DSL, hikarunix and finally fluxbuntu (fluxbuntu was promising, hopefully they can merge efforts with #!). before i had used also suse 8 & 9 (it was great), mepis (made big steps towards usability), knoppix (v3 marked the most important milestone in linux), debian 2.2, redhat 5 & 6 ... . i have tried many other distros, and now i am quite happy with #!, i am trying it together with mint 6 (i am surprised a default mint installation uses less disk than #!, but this is not a big issue).
so i want to thank corenominal and the people involved in work here. is there a tracker or a list of jobs to be done?
i asked moreless the same some weeks ago :
hi,
just a political comment. i am sure your suggestions make a lot of sense, but i believe that issuing more than 1 iso for a release only adds confusion to users. afair, ubuntu have only done that with 06.06. it should only be done in case of fatal error or unacceptable bug.
i guess it may be better preparing an upgrade package, and then announce it properly on the forums and other communication channels.
thanks guys. Menu -- System -- Display Settings only offered 640x480. i meant a command-line X configuration tool, like in the old times.
after installing #! to a laptop and seeing that screen resolution was fine, i thought it may be a problem of the drivers. then i remembered i may have installed the nvidia driver to my debian 4.0 distro. i was skeptical of having installed that to a pure debian, but that's what it was. so then i used system - restricted drivers and now everything is fine.
perhaps it'd be nice to warn the user that a propietary driver is avalable. for users who don't know or don't remember the graphic card on the computer it may be useful.
thanks,
Is this what you are looking for?
yes, somehow. i'd like to know how to have the US keyboard at bootup (not only inside openbox), but anyhow, it's great now. thanks!
is there any way to change screen resolution? the menus only offer 640x480. i could not find anything else through the openbox menus. in case there is a recommended command line i'd appreciate to know.
with this computer when i boot on a 2 y.o. debian distro i get a resolution of 1200 or so.
i'll write this (and my previous post) on the wiki and FAQ if somebody replies.
TIA.
hello,
is there any easy way to change the keyboard layout from the menus? i have set spanish keyboard, but i'd like to use US keyboard layout.
if that is not easyly doable from the menus, then please tell me which files should i modify. i have browsed and modified in /etc/X11 and /usr/share/.../gdm without success.
TIA.
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