I had an HP2140 -- beautiful design, and great keyboard, but it had some quality issues.   The speed was ok, but then I only used it for email and light web browsing. 

Now have an Acer 1410 -- 11" screen and an Intel Core Solo CPU.  It's peppier than an Atom, but was about $100 more than the Acer netbook with the same-sized screen.  Bought my mother one of those and she's had no trouble with it.   It's also perfect for traveling -- you don't know it's in your bag and it's a great size for a tray table in cattle class.   The small screen can be a little hard on the eyes (or at least my eyes) after a while, which is the only downside.

--sjr

Was in Louisiana last week and went to the Abita brewery.  They're a small regional craft brewing company about an hour outside Baton Rouge.  The tour starts and finishes with "help yourself" beer tasting from their taps -- I think they had about 6-8 different types.  Favorites were the ales, especially the "Restoration" IPA .

http://lamp.npwsdemo.com/austinjoomla/images/brews/abita-restoration-pale.jpg


The guys working there all had a passion for beer, and it was great to see a small company that still believes in doing things right. 

--sjr

klanger wrote:

why don't you just install E17 on your working machine, instead downloading an iso?

... I'm beginning to feel hopeless... roll


open your mind for help big_smile cool

we, as distroholics - the ones after therapy - should ban distrowatch and linuxtracker for being the source of are illness!

tongue

I have tried alternate managers or environments on my own installations, but it's never as interesting to me as seeing how someone else designed their distro.    I like trying the whole thing mostly to see how the developers have brought everything together, if that makes sense.

As far as distroholism goes, just surrender. tongue It's easier that way. 

--sjr

klanger wrote:

So if you're a full time distrohopper, I recommend moving toward more advanced distros (do not use shortcuts like Chakra or omns build-scripts!) and build an OS as a therapy from "scratch". After it's done you'll be probably free of distrohopping in about 30% big_smile

Bless you, brother klanger.  I've started wondering if LFS or something similar would help me.   I don't know if I'm feeling enlightened by your advice or just enabled, but either way it works.

Speaking of enlightenment, was thinking of downloading and trying Moon OS.  Saw a review this week that also makes me wonder about giving Puppy Arcade a shot.  I'd tried another Live CD linux gaming thing last year, but it didn't agree with my graphics card. 

@danielrmt : love your sig line!

--sjr

Zwopper wrote:

Then again, a well chilled German Wheat Beer ain't wrong either. wink (Aah, that's what the fridge is for!) tongue

Especially in the summer! 

I can't quite get used to the habit of putting a slice of orange or lemon in the wheat beer glass -- it just doesn't seem right.   It's like ice cubes in wine -- go with the flavor the maker put in it, or get something else...

--sjr

In honor of one of the greatest foods ever (maybe even better than bacon...), would love to know what kinds of beers #!'ers are drinking.

My 'fridge has a Teutonic theme this month:  a couple of bottles of an Austrian Stieglbock, some Wuerzburger Hofbrau, and a bunch of Becks Premium Light, which is the Other Half's preferred beer.  We're also lucky to have a great local beer store.  The owner is a bit of a curmudgeon -- he's gruff, but has great taste, so we're not stuck with just mega-brands.

What do you all like?

--sjr

@corenominal/bobobex -- I think it's a great distro and a great community.  My only regret is that it doesn't somehow force me to remember to make backup copies of config files before I start trashing, err...I mean, configuring...them.  That has more to do with my level of Linux-fu than #!. big_smile  I've learned more about the guts of Linux from #! than any other distro I've tried, so it's been super.  Plus, you guys really do a great job with the community, and that's very cool. Thanks for all the work you put in.

@fox -- Good catch about the start up times, thank you. I'll add something about that to future pieces.  I tend to forget about that because I find that I don't reboot Linux nearly as often as I do using a certain other OS.  Not that there's anything wrong with that... 

@blackbinary -- Fair points, too -- your mileage trying it will vary based on curiosity, level of tech literacy, et cetera.  It's very subjective, but my mental rule of thumb is trying to imagine what my mother would make of an OS or a user interface.  Moblin would probably be ok, but I'm pretty sure Openbox  is a bridge too far in the respect. 

--sjr

Hola, #!'ers.  I wrote the below, and wanted to post it here to ask for some feedback: 

http://www.raiden.net/articles/review_c … nux_90401/

I'd be interested in hearing from you what you think, and how this could have been improved.  I've got a great pair of flame-proof pants so if you disagree with something or thought I missed a point, please let me know.  I know we're not lacking for people with opinions here...  I know there was some disagreement with NewCityVegas' previous review in Dec 08 and his views about noob-friendliness.  Up front, I agree with his conclusions, although I got there by a little different route. 

I also apologize in advance for the tiny graphics -- I was playing with the images in OOo and set them way too small on this review. 

--sjr

pvsage wrote:

As an avid fan of concert taping, I'm constantly on the lookout for distros that facilitate this on a netbook.  Therefore, I'm excited about PupItUp and am downloading it right now.  Anyone have any experience with this Puplet?

Not that one, but I've played with a couple of others -- K9, Browser Linux, one or two more.  Like the idea, but found the installers always balked at a hard disk installation.  I could be doing it wrong, but have never had consistent problems like that with other distros.  It's a great idea, though and very light and fast. 

Have fallen off the wagon and back to moderate hopping.  Still have #!, but tried out Moblin 2.1 on my Acer the other day and loved it.  So that may go on the machine for a while.  Like vrkalak, also went to Xubuntu 10.04 Alpha (on a desktop) and am surprised by how relatively unbuggy it's been.  As if that all wasn't enough, got a copy of Knoppix 6.2 in a magazine and that's sitting on the table staring at me, silently daring me to slip it into a drive and give it a spin.  yikes

Hop on!

--sjr

Despite billions in investment, its Xbox line is still at best an equal contender in the game console business.

I don't think he was calling it a failure, but it's a good point.  Capable machine but it certainly doesn't own the market in the same way that Windows or MS Office do in their segments.  Problem with any big organization is that it gets set in its ways, things that were good habits when the company or market was different get locked into the culture whether they're helpful in the present or not, and it takes a long time or a really traumatic experience to change them.

--sjr

Back to the caffeine theme, with a distinctly British tint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELH0ivexKA

--sjr

arinlares wrote:

Hey, being a sufferer of this heinous disease, I find your comment rude and uncalled for!  mad

I'd have a crafty and funny answer, but that would...pull...me...away...from...Distrowatch...

Not throwing stones at anyone.  My distrohopping had been in remission for a while, but then I get a copy of Knoppix 6.2 and it's been years since I tried it and now the CD's sitting there on the desk calling to me... 

hmm

--sjr

r0xb0x wrote:

iam glad theres more of us folk out there makes me feel sane again lol

Bwahahahah!!!!! 

We fooled someone else!

lol

Welcome to the fold, r0xb0x.

--sjr

Have done both sides of the road.  Agree with benj1 that it's not shifting the problem, but remembering to keep the car on the correct side of the road -- although I spent a lot of time turning on the windshield wipers when I mean to use the turn signal.  D'oh!

Learned to drive on a stick shift.  I have a car with the paddle shifters on the steering wheel, and that's enormous fun on the highway, not so much practical for stop-and-go city driving.

--sjr

stopie wrote:

Problem is netbook remix is more functional and still easy to use - i mean these are human beings we're talking about, we can move beyond point and click only

smile

"No man ever went broke overestimating the ignorance of the...public" -- P.T. Barnum

There's a thin line between "human being" and "consumer", and the bridge between them is marketing.

--sjr

http://www.speedtest.net/result/700351055.png

I'm pleasantly surprised by this.  I would have thought it was slower, especially now since it's Saturday night, it's snowing, and I expect almost everyone in my area is at home and on line.  smile

--sjr

spoovy wrote:

Well I finally got my review of Xubuntu written up.  And got a few mentions of #! in as well, naturally.  Here it is, as someone requested I believe...

www.lukaspress.blogspot.com

Nice!

--sjr

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92kg (sigh)
180cm

--sjr

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Always on the left (I'm right-handed).  The biggest threat to my laptop is from my wife, who usually sits worshipping at the Temple of Apple in front of her piece of polished aluminum goodness, to my right.  I learned to keep liquids on the left the hard way, when she opened the lid on her Mac Book and knocked over my beer on the laptop before this one.   

The laptop didn't suffer any real damage, but I hated wasting good German beer.

--sjr

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Qmf_5aHoS2E/S1mKBQdHl5I/AAAAAAAABaI/Xcjliha9Cvc/s144/img_1035.jpg

omghax wrote:

I've tried with both thumb drives and no success.

And I suppose yes, I would like to completely reformat the machine with CB.

Any suggestions?

Have you tried the various boot variables?  (No ACPI, that sort of thing?)

I had similar issues with an HP2140, but wound up sending it back for a motherboard and wireless replacement before I figured out how to get Ubuntu or #! to work with it.

Digit wrote:

the inspiration: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/09/08 … ords-10mb/
admittedly, when i discovered dwm, that was sort of an inspiration towards this goal too, given how tiny it is.

A little bit off topic, but I'm fascinated with some of the machines that K.Mandla manages to resurrect.  He's got a thing for vintage hardware, for sure.

Curious implication to your post -- does compiling/coding your own count as proper "distrohopping"? 

I'd think it's either closer to software nirvana or requires more intense intervention.  (Or maybe both?)

--sjr

monkeybritt wrote:

i have everything working please god keep me from trying something new!

big_smile

Going through the same thing right now.  Blew up my MBR a couple of weeks ago by accident (d'oh!) and have everything working again.  Now starting to feel the temptation to just try something... You know, one little distro off USB wouldn't hurt, right? 

--sjr

No matter which way you decide to call it, that's pretty striking.  Amazing how much can be crammed into a small space now.

I'm playing with Jolicloud as a dual-boot alternative on my Acer, and am not sure that I'll keep it very long.  I agree with fox's observations about it, but think that the MyJolicloud application management idea is head and shoulders above the normal UNR Synaptic or CLI options.  One click and you're done, basically, as long as what you want is on the menu.  Admit I tend to look features like that from the perspective of whether I could get my mother to use something, so it may not apply or appeal to the average #! user.

IMHO, would be very cool if they extended the user interface further out and replace some of the basic UNR desktop, which I don't like particularly.

--sjr

Officially off the wagon as well.  Tried Jolicloud, since I had it and Windows Installer had nuked my triple-boot setup.  Neat idea, and I love the installer, but not sure it'll hold me.  Now thinking hard about Madbox, which I've heard some good things about.

--sjr