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i tried some different things but all i get is errors. i just saw the new posts so i did not try that yet.
from openbox --replace from dwm which i use a lot lately i get the error

cmay@MyCrunch:~/videos$ openbox --replace
Openbox-Message: A window manager is already running on screen 0
cmay@MyCrunch:~/videos$ 

all other things i tried just results in login out an getting to the gdm login screen. I just remembered that puppy linux does work as root and there is as far as i know no gdm login on that . so i imagine it takes root privileges to switch windows environments this way. which is the only i have not tried to do yet. it would not be any good solution either so i did not try it.

first time i used jwm the debian menu was really annoying. i imagine that one who never really used linux before would be terrified by the menu as there is some settings in it that is hard to avoid clicking on when you mouse over it trying to find things in system menu like language locale settings. i done that many times until i found out how to disable the debian menu.  i think its a wise choice to leave it off.

the firts distro i had was mandriva powerpack. i also had open-suse a while but then i got the linux magazine dvd wiht debian sarge and i installed it and just went over to using debian.

i found ubuntu via the same linux magazine and it was dapper drake. i liked the message ubuntu stands for so i started using it as a political statement same as i use debian as a political statement.

now after getting my first laptop and i had a asus eeepc before that i started to use crunch bang and i wont use anything else on a laptop. maybe debian wiht the lxde + open box image but crunch works just great so i rather use that .

do the ubuntu people stay the same you ask. i dont know..
i started using open solaris more and more instead of linux and i also started using BSD more frequent than before.

i however repair old computers and have five old ones standing so i have enough toys to play with and i have on my main computer which is a desktop pc wiht 4 gigabyte ram open solaris and my other main system is my laptop with crunch bang. i have had used older computers only before i got these two computers a year or so ago  so until that i used debian only and i had a single pc that could run ubuntu. which was my main operative system at the time.

i think ubuntu users stick with ubuntu unless they get inspired to use linux from scratch ,gentoo , tiny core , debian or arch or even some unix version free or commercial depending on who they are and why they started use linux in the first place.

i have tried that instead of the debian netboot minmal netboot iso image  as i always use  when installing debian but it does not work on my laptop. it cant load  drivers for the video card so its just a a lot of colors on the screen and i also tried debian minimal iso but it cant load the drivers for the internet.

it seems i am stuck a bit using either ubuntu or crunch bang on this laptop as the other distributions i like does not work with the hardware. its a bit annoying but i can live with that.

edit:
spelling corrected.

my first computer is still in use. its a fujitsu siemens that came with windows ME and it has 600 mzh intel and 300 mb ram. and a 20 gigabyte harddisk. it runs debian using openbox and lxde as windows manager, i learned to like use that by using crunch bang and i was happy that lenny comes with a small lxde + xfce iso image.

actually i use it to play a few games as well and like to have a ordinary computer system with dvd burner if needed . i only have one computer with dvd burner. i tried mythbuntu and i did not like it. i have tried a couple media center based distros but i just found crunch bang to be the one that works the best with my hardware and is also the most easy for me to configure and set up.

thanks

yes. you download it it from synaptic and make sure you have the drivers for your video card enabled so it can be played well. i play it as one of the only linux games other than supertux i like  to play.  you can also open a terminal and enter the code
sudo apt-get install sourbraten.

its a very good game it just needs the restricted nvidia drivers to be enabled.
good luck

crunch bang on asus eeepc model 701sd just as it is from factory. no upgrades or any fixes other than having replaced xandros with crunch bang. runs perfect. i play supertux and its way more fast on crunch bang than the default xandros install. i can also watch movies with out any problem. (a usb-dvd-writer thinghy  can be a blessing to plugin once in a while )

i have crunch bang on a older computer (not laptop) which has a celeron 700 mzh and 500 mb ram and 14 gigabyte harddisk. runs great but cant show video that well. its a bit too slow on that one. but i use it more for skype anyway so its great having. maybe the slowness has a bit to do with  the ram blocks not being the same or maybe it does something that its a old harddisk and i have two harddisk on the system since i dual boot with a debian installation on a 6 gigabyte harddisk. which is old and slow.

edit:
i forgot to mention i have crunch bang as a media center on my brand new computer. its an msi motherboard wiht an amd 2.000 mzh proccesor and 1052 mb  ram. i put in a hauppage nova -t tv card and it works great. its not a low spec computer and its not a very high end piece of computer hardware so i did not think it could have any interest in the first place to read about. i almost also forgot it since i consider that computer as a appliance suitable for wiewing movies and listing to music rather than a computer runnnig linux. i installed elisa media center package and a lot of cool games for my brother when he visits me and thats it.  but it works  great