To all that had spent their precious time looking at this post, thank you. I would like to end my discussion with this post.


I dare not say that I know my way around Linux cause I am really not a software person, but I do put in enough effort to make sure that my deskop is installed to own preference.

I have also installed many many more linux on computers (mostly laptops) for people (sometimes strangers at the library) who are curious enough to ask about my laptop (Debian) screen.

I've been carrying livecd of openSUSE (KDE), Mint (Gnome) around and willing to show to any curious being. Once they understand the choice, most are willing (wanted) to install.



Anyway enough of my babbling -
I came with a suggestion, not a demand.
If it makes sense, good, implement it.
If it is nonsense, smile, move on.


Discusssing this thread and getting nowhere - I do not want to waste your previous time.


As I've said in my preivous post, all the best !!.

gutterslob wrote:

.... I'm still pinning hopes for a future Lite version .....

This is exactly what I am trying to highlight:
- a base install of CrunchBang and
- a meta-package of a desktop environment/manager resulting in a fully working CrunchBang install.

Like CrunchBang now, the apps and config will be predetermined by the dev.


Why the idea?

I have been installing Debian all these years:
- using the netinst cd,
- adding xorg
- then a manager (mostly fluxbox)
All other apps (e.g. vlc, mp3 codecs) added as an when I needed.


So am thinking that new users could benefit from CrunchBang by getting easy excess and try out different desktop environment (just like openbox and xfce now).


Most new users didn't even know what openbox/fluxbox/xfce/kde/gnome/etc are (and these are the common ones), let alone what apps to install with them. An experienced dev could predetermine that and give new users a good start.


CrunchBang did not limit itself (to gnome) when using Ubuntu, hopefully CrunchBang can provide even more choices when using Debian.


All the best!!

@johnraff:  there's CrunchBang XFCE. Just thought that other deskop may interest more user big_smile

also there's always lighter wm like fluxbox


@merelyjim: I may have taken the intro text to CrunchBang ("Ease of Use") out of context, my bad

Hi oupsemma,

don't get me wrong, smile

have been using Debian Testing for sometime now and have more or less a standard list for my own install.

just wanted to suggest so that new users will find it easy to test out different desktop with CrunchBang selected apps, while using CrunchBang.

hopefully this will pull in new users for CrunchBang for its ease of use and flexibility

Disclaimer:  big_smile

As I do NOT know how to code, I may not truely understand the difficulty of what I am going to suggest. Please ignore this post if it is ridiculous.

In Debian , installing the meta package "kde-plasma-desktop" will install a minimal kde4 desktop http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html.


Is it possible to create meta-packages stored in CrunchBang's own repo that could install a complete desktop environment, thereby creating a truely flexible and user friendly distro  e.g.

apt-get install crunchbang-kde  to install
- a basic kde desktop &
- smplayer
- ark
- kget
- etc ....

aptitude install crunchbang-fluxbox to install
- fluxbox
- thunar
- file-roller
- etc

apt-get install crunchbang-whatever to install
- whatever desktop environment
- whatever apps the dev things works best
- etc

big_smile

Would like to suggest to have the following installed/configured by default in CrunchBang

- CJK configured, leaving the users to install the language files as needed

- Truecrypt , probably having it hosted in CrunchBang's repo if possible, so apt-get upgrade works automagically

big_smile

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大家好!! I'm the one who started the "HOWTO Configure SCIM to enable Chinese input" wiki big_smile

If you are using Ubuntu base, ibus is the way to go.

I am using Debian Squeeze, SCIM is working fine here.

Anyway, if anyone have a confirmed way of configuring CJK input, why not update the wiki and make the world a better place. big_smile

Better still, maybe we can interest Corenominal to have CJK input configured in Crunchbang by default.

Text install will allow computers will less resource to install Debian, which have merit in itself.

However, since the LiveCD contains packages that enables wireless during livecd mode, I somehow expected that these same packages to be automatically available (from the same CD) during installation,

or maybe that is technically not feasible?

The Thinkpad T410 comes with newer hardware www.linlap.com/wiki/lenovo+thinkpad+t410
- Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300  for the wireless
- Intel 82577 Ethernet Controller for the ethernet


Background info for Debain Installation

The current Debian (lenny and squeeze) installer does not (yet) support the newer hardware
- the ethernet net card is not detected as needs a newer kernel, which is not in the installer
- the wireless card is not detected as it needs the firmware-iwlwifi package (and is dependencies)

omns is right tot say that you have to load the driver from an external source or download it after installation, however, I've tried it and somehow just missed the magical touch to get it working.

those of us with newer hardware that falls into this situation but still wanted to install debian can use a modified kernel from a Debian developer's site kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/

As for CrunchBang, the wireless connection works perfectly in the Statler LiveCD. A closer look indicates that there are packages (like firmware-iwlwifi, firmware-ralink etc) from CrunchBang's own repository.

However, when installing from the LiveCD, these firmware packages weren't detected.

Wondering why wireless works during LiveCD but not detected (require extra firmware) during installation, as all the packages required is already packaged on the LiveCD.

Thanks all for the input,

after visiting the links and multiple modifications to xorg.conf and reboot, finally got what I needed
- tap-and-click working
- edge scrolling working


All information is obtained from ArchLinux site wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_S … org_method

Below is the changes to xorg.conf for future user's ease of reference:

Section "ServerLayout"
   ...
   ...
   InputDevice    "SynapticsTouchpad"  "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "SynapticsTouchpad"
   Driver      "synaptics"
   Option      "AlwaysCore"        "true"  # send events to CorePointer
   #Option      "Device"            "/dev/input/mice"
   Option      "Device"            "/dev/psaux"
   Option      "Protocol"          "auto-dev"
   Option      "SHMConfig"         "false" # configurable at runtime? security risk
   Option      "LeftEdge"          "1700"  # x coord left
   Option      "RightEdge"         "5300"  # x coord right
   Option      "TopEdge"           "1700"  # y coord top
   Option      "BottomEdge"        "4200"  # y coord bottom
   Option      "FingerLow"         "25"    # pressure below this level triggers release
   Option      "FingerHigh"        "30"    # pressure above this level triggers touch
   Option      "MaxTapTime"        "180"   # max time in ms for detecting tap
   Option      "VertEdgeScroll"    "true"  # enable vertical scroll zone
   Option      "HorizEdgeScroll"   "true"  # enable horizontal scroll zone
   Option      "CornerCoasting"    "true"  # enable continuous scroll with finger in corner
   Option      "CoastingSpeed"     "0.30"  # corner coasting speed
   Option      "VertScrollDelta"   "100"   # edge-to-edge scroll distance of the vertical scroll
   Option      "HorizScrollDelta"  "100"   # edge-to-edge scroll distance of the horizontal scroll
   Option      "MinSpeed"          "0.10"  # speed factor for low pointer movement
   Option      "MaxSpeed"          "0.60"  # maximum speed factor for fast pointer movement
   Option      "AccelFactor"       "0.0020"    # acceleration factor for normal pointer movements
   Option      "VertTwoFingerScroll"   "true"  # vertical scroll anywhere with two fingers
   Option      "HorizTwoFingerScroll"  "true"  # horizontal scroll anywhere with two fingers
   Option      "TapButton1" "1"
   Option      "TapButton2" "2"
   Option      "TapButton3" "3"
EndSection

Thanks for the links, got the Tap-n-Click working for the touchpad,

but in return lost the scrolling (up/down , left/right) capability  sad

Tried installing CrunchBang Statler but unable to proceed due to firmware issues (crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/67890/#p67890)

Went ahead to install Debian Sqeeze and got it working.

In CrunchBang LiveCD, tapping on the touchpad can result in a mouse click (which is normal), however
in my Debian Sqeeze installation, the touchpad does not react to a tapping action.

Appreciate if someone can advise how to configure the tapping (mouse click) action for the touchpad, thanks.

Downloaded Statler 64bit LiveCD and tested on a Thinkpad T410, wireless is working fine.

Decided to install Statler on the same laptop using the Text Installer.
During the "Detect network hardware" stage, the installer prompted that there was missing firmware and couldn't proceed as it cannot detect my wireless connection without the firmware.

Any idea why wireless works during LiveCD but not detected (require extra firmware) during installation?

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Hi richs-lxh

a suggestion -

what about writing a script to install fluxbox and create the application menu after installing "Statler".

should be useful to anyone who is interested to give fluxbox a try but is not familiar with the in's and out's of fluxbox

Interesting !!

Maybe someone who can get Corenominal's attention  -  get him to review if its useful to add these repository and keyrings by default.

Think this should benefit new users who is not fully aware of these repository.

Interesting to note that my question actually spins off to acroread big_smile

Just to share, this is some of the stuff that I used on my main desktop when in Debian Testing

Opera                   

deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free main

Virtualbox             

Google-chrome     

deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main non-free



Coming back to my question, is the multimedia repository "useful" in  "Statler"?

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free

or is it "replaced" by the crunchbang repo.


and should "crunchbang-keyring" be installed by default?

With Squeeze installed on my main desktop, besides the usual debain and security repositories,
I have out of habit added one more multimedia repository

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free

is the above repository "useful" in  "Statler"?


Also noticed that "crunchbang-keyring" is not installed by default, shouldn't it be?

Ahh .... that's the command .

now I remember lol

Thanks all.

Hi blackbinary

by installing "Statler" on the USB, I mean using the USB thumbdrive like a harddisk install, not a live CD.
then i will have an entire OS with me with all configurations and additional packages that I've addon.

Say, if I go to a friend's place and booted his computer using my USB thumb drive,
I will have  "Statler" running there. However when I need to copy a file from his harddrive,
will need to mount to his harddisk which I think will not be autodetected.

So, was wondering how to check the computer harddisk partition layout without having to startup gparted, cfdisk etc.


Hi pvsage,

am I right to say that the computer's harddisk layout will not be autodetected in this case ?

You get me wrong big_smile

After installing "Statler" onto a USB stick, I will bring it along with me to use with any available computer.

So when booting on a computer,
presume "Statler" will not auto-detect the harddisk drives/partitions.
how would I how the harddisk partition layout of that particular computer without resulting to gparted?

Got wind that Crunchbang is builiding base on Debian and is now downloading "Statler".

Got out to get a 8Gb USB thumbdrive and going to install "Statler" and use it as my portable os big_smile

One question - when booting from the USB (/dev/sdb?), how can I detect the main harddisk and understand it's partition layout, without using gparted ?

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anoymous
obviously rigosantana3 is one of the expert users, so many apps to him may not be useful or too heavy.
but "new user" may see it slightly differently. I use to question why include agave but now I appreciate it.


rigosantana3
what about sharing your dump (minus the obvious things like xorg's) of dpkg --get-selections

big_smile

snowpine wrote:

Sidux project is imploding; maybe go with Arch instead. smile


Imploding? why?

Remembered with using the liveCD, it allows me to select the type of keyboard, e.g. US, UK, DE etc.

Doesn't seem to be found after installation.

Any idea what is this program called?