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el_koraco wrote:No idea, I don't use them. But what the hell did you uninstall for nm-applet to stop working?
I have no idea what it was -- I suppose I could have looked at the dpkg.log to try to figure out. It didn't stop working -- it just stopped being automatically started. As I said, I'm no linux novice unless the criteria for "advanced" is some sort of advanced degree.
Awebb wrote:As I said, crunchbang folks are a lot into post-install scripts and the likes. There is no sane way of capturing whether there is a metapackage or not. Any approach using --force like options is doomed to break something else.
Increasing the dependency complexity - something people love to call the Debian dependency hell - in order to create a safety net for beginners, is just not a very good trade.
Yes, I can see that you don't like metapackages. But what you said is that they are inconvenient for "advanced" users. So I asked why and correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see an answer. When installing a distribution, one will often want to uninstall some unwanted packages. For example, distro A includes packages y and z and I don't want y. If x is a metapackage with dependencies y and z, how is uninstalling y and consequently x more inconvenient than uninstalling y alone?
If you don't want metapackages simply because you don't like them, that's fine but that's not what you said.
Awebb wrote:Was indeed one of the first things I always removed in Ubuntu: metapackages. The crunchbang folks are kind of script happy people, they love playing with post-install scripts and whatnot. This is a question of how much inconvenience one is willing to cause for the advanced users to take away a chance to learn for the beginners.
You can avoid that kind of problem by taking notes about what you install and remove. If something breaks, have a look at your notes and get everything up again.
Just curious but what is inconvenient about metapackages? I consider myself fairly advanced but perhaps not as advanced as you. Uninstall a dependency of a metapackage and it uninstalls the metapackage. Really no more inconvenient than uninstalling the original unwanted package. And what I'm suggesting is a fairly minimal metapackage that is more a warning that "maybe you might want to rethink uninstalling x because it might break something", not the overarching ubuntu-desktop package that includes everything under the sun.
Tunafish wrote:If you have xdotool installed you can open the menu by editing ~/.config/cb-hotcorners/cb-hotcornersrc :
bottom_right_corner_command = xdotool key super+space
Many thanks!
Would it be possible to create a meta package for crunchbang that has essential packages as dependencies? I found that after uninstalling some packages that as far as I could tell were not important, some essential user services stopped autoloading (guake and nm-applet)
. With a meta package, a warning would be issued if one tried to uninstall something that crunchbang needs.
Pretty cool and great idea! Two questions. First, is it possible to get it to open the menu? Second, is it possible to get it to minimize/restore windows?
Milozzy wrote:Welcome back on board 
I suggest you to take a look also at uxdgmenu (https://github.com/ju1ius/uxdgmenu) it comes with a configuration GUI too.
The project is still young and has some bugs, but works ok and it is my favorite auto generating menu.
From the same author comes gtk-logout (https://github.com/ju1ius/gtk-logout) a beautiful application to logout/shutdown/restart/etc
Maybe Philip could look at it as an alternative of cb-exit.
Sweet! I'll give it a try.
After being away from #! for a few years, I'm back with an install on my netbook. Looking very good!
In terms of why I left in the first place, I got tired of hand editing the menu.xml file whenever I installed a new application. I tried the xfce4 version but it seemed a little buggy to me. The difference for me this time is that at about the same time as the waldorf image was released, archbang came out with a new version. Poking around in archbang's guts, I discovered openbox-menu (http://mimasgpc.free.fr/openbox-menu_en.html) which autogenerates the menu on-the-fly! Any chance of including it by default?
I'll try it on the netbook for a few weeks and if I'm happy I'll install it on my other machines.
There is now a alpha/beta based on 12.04 available. Will try this evening.
http://madbox.tuxfamily.org/
AdComp apparently has a new image based on 11.10. http://forum.xubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.p
1#p6669431
Yes, beautiful isn't it! And as as you say, not many default applications to be uninstalled. So far I only have it installed on my netbook but I'm planning to eventually install it on my other systems.
Unia wrote:My guess is that the installer didn't copy the config files to you hdd. What's inside ~/home/<username>/.config/openbox?
That's exactly the problem. Copy directories and files from /etc/skel/.config to ~/.config
Did you install system-config-printer-gnome?
Tried Madbox again after a couple years -- looks great! When is the RC coming? Any plans for a 64 bit version or if there is an install script, that would be just as good!
In an Arch system, I installed deskbar-applet which installed gnome-panel and gnome-python and this got rid of that warning. Unfortunately, it broke bzr. It's not clear what it has any function in an openbox system.
Edit the .config/xfce4/autostart.sh file and comment out the lines that kill the xfce panel and/or start tint.
Anybody tried this on an Aspire One? Suspend does not seem to work.
+ gvolwheel
- volwheel
As far as I can see, volwheel is no longer under development whereas gvolwheel had a release in Sept. gvolwheel also shows up in the systray if tint is restarted.
mesmith wrote:If I' happily using something like ubuntu 8.04, and am happy with the stability and user interface in general, it seems to me that keeping up with new versions of my favorite applications should be easy. I asked about this on the ubuntu forum and got strange answers: "well, why do you want the newest Abiword?", features, of course, "you could ask for a backport and maybe they'd do it", I did, they didn't, "you could try downloading the source and compiling it, it might work!" Jesus, please.
You can get up-to-date packages for many applications, like abiword. There are many independently maintained package repositories for various software packages. For example, to get the current version of abiword follow these instructions: http://www.abisource.com/wiki/Install_on_Ubuntu.
Sweet! Thanks and I look forward to it.
Yes, it is pretty minor -- I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to fix it.
Has anyone else noticed that under karmic, upon startup, gnome-power-manager will have a blank icon in the systray? If at some point I go to battery power, it turns into the battery power icon and upon returning to outlet power, after the battery finishes charging, the icon disappears (the behavior I was expecting in the first place). I have it set to only display an icon when charging or discharging.
I did not have this problem with jaunty.
I installed Karmic using the minimal iso and the 9.04.01 script. Everything is fine except that usplash crashes at the beginning of boot, complaining that the dimensions are off. I don't seem to have any usplash problems on my desktop which I dist-upgraded to from a Jaunty install.
Edit: The error being thrown is:
usplash: rejecting theme /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so 800x500 (assertion theme->theme_height && theme->text_y + theme->text_height > theme->theme_height failed); please file a bug
I assume you tried creating a /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf file containing:
options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire
I have a different model but this worked for me.
I got curious and just tried it and it works for me.
All I did was:
./configure
sudo make install
export PATH="/usr/local/lib/cw:$PATH"
and then commands like du and df produced output like:

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