Have you tried #! with DE other than Xfce or Openbox? (Page 3 of 3)

Icewm also includes a panel, but you can disable it.

Sherlock's Hitchhiker's Guide to IceWM, Chapter 6:

In IceWM, you have icons in the menus, but you can remove or replace them in the menu file. Two example lines of /home/hs/.icewm/menu:

prog "Dateimanager _Thunar" folder thunar
prog "Web-Browser _Firefox" /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png firefox

Firefox will have the icon /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png, thunar will have the icon folder_16x16.xpm / folder_32x32.xpm, found in the default directory /usr/share/icewm/icons

If you don't want to have icons, write a not existing icon file into the menu file

The menu file has an easy syntax without html / xml. You can begin a line with 1 of 3 keywords: prog, separator, menu. separator draws a line between two entries. menu makes sub-menus, sub-sub-menus and so on.

The toolbar file (for the application-start-icons in the taskbar) has the same syntax. Here is an example submenu in /home/hs/.icewm/toolbar:

menu "Ende" /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png {
   prog "Ausschalten" xterm sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now
   prog "Neu starten" xterm sudo /sbin/shutdown -r now
   }

The keys file (for shortcuts) has a similar syntax. Here are some example lines of /home/hs/.icewm/keys   (# = comment)

# with mouse pointer:
key "Print" /bin/sh -c "/usr/bin/gnome-panel-screenshot"
# without mouse pointer:
key "Shift+Print" scrot '%Y%m%d-%H%M%S.png' -e 'mv $f ~/Bilder/Screenshots/'
key "Super+r"            thunar
key "Alt+Ctrl+y"        geany

The keys Super, Alt, Ctrl, Shift, Print are named Super, Alt, Ctrl, Shift, Print

Sherlock's Hitchhiker's Guide to IceWM, Chapter 7:

There are many themes in http://box-look.org
I like IceNine (on the following screenshots with gtk-theme Aurora-midnight), and I think, some people on the "dark side" will like it too ...except the menu button in the left bottom corner?

No problem. You can easy change it: Screenshot 1 shows file manager thunar with a number of thumbnails, /home/hs/.icewm/IceNine/icewm.xpm is marked. Remove or rename it. Copy the icewm.xpm (from another theme, which you like) to the IceNine folder. Restart IceWM.

Done. I only renamed the file, didn't copy another one, so the fallback is active: Screenshot 2 shows the debian-menu-button, and the menu – well, do I have an eagle's eyes? Or a big screen? No, I haven't. So let's change the font size: Screenshot 2 shows editor geany with the file /home/hs/.icewm/IceNine/default.theme, in there the line "MenuFontNameXft = zekton:size=7". This is the line to edit.

Done. Also changed: "QuickSwitchFontNameXft" and "ColorQuickSwitch", because the color of the selected task was the same like the non-selected tasks. Now, the selection is visible.

Changing the elements of IceWM is fun.

I've personally switched over to awesome with crunchbang.
I just find its much easier to get work done in. I spend much less time moving windows around, minimzing and maximizing, dragging around etc.
I always liked Windows 7 feature of dragging to the sides made the window take up half the screen, and awesome was a natural extension to some extent.
Plus with crunchbang I've already gotten used to using shortcuts galore, so that wasn't difficult either.

I've been using dwm for a while and crunchbang makes it really easy, ready for customization without too much trouble. I've tried doing it from a minimal debian install but I only recommend that as a way of learning about linux and debian. dwm is simple and fast and does all the things I want it to do. Openbox is really very well designed but dwm is faster, simpler, saves valuable screen real estate, its entirely keyboard-driven (vim-ish) and I get geek-cred for using it. Alot of folks use dwm with gdm but I recommend ditching gdm if you're the only one using the computer. Instead I use nodm, which is available in the repos.

I'd also like to agree with an earlier posting, dwm is great for productivity in that you can quickly change, resize windows, launch stuff, etc, without leaving the keyboard, but Its horrible for productivity in that it leads to endless tweaking, seeing what others have done, and comparing. A good dwm config is always only half-done. I have a small to-do list of scripts and tweaks i'd like to make. What a tremendous waste of time for so much time-savings.:wq

It's nothing more than XMonad.

-- Thomas Adam

No, it *is* a configuration for XMonad.  There was some effort to get it merged into XMonad proper, I do not recall how successful that was, check their mailing list archives.

And yes, it does run under GNOME, just like XMonad "pure" can, without the Bluetile config.

-- Thomas Adam

A couple of the Mint Devs are working on a LinuxMint version with a Mint-ified Debian 'testing' with the new Fluxbox 1.3 

If you like Fluxbox and/or have wanted to try the new Flux 1.3 . . . Look for this one soon.

Hi, I've got XFCE statler + Enlightenment . ( At the Desktop ) ..... and Chakra Kde at the laptop. I like the solid basis #! gives me, but hoping improves in  both alternate  DE.

Last edited by eduadeje (2011-03-10 13:44:07)

Sherlock's Hitchhiker's Guide to IceWM, Chapter 8:

IceWM works together with debian / debian based distros very well:

• When you install IceWM (it's only one apt-get away), a menu with all your applications will be created automagically.

• When you install an additional application, this menu will be updated automagically.

Main menu = favourites + 3 lines
The last 3 lines: Programs, Help, Settings

The new application will be in a submenu of Programs ...might be a place where you don't look for it. Example: "geany" is not in "editors" but in "programming".

The automagically updated file: /etc/X11/icewm/programs
It's useful to know this file. Example: I wanted to include synaptic into a submenu of my favourites. Simply "synaptic" didn't work. Solution: "gksu synaptic"!
Copied from /etc/X11/icewm/programs to ~/.icewm/menu:

    prog "Synaptic" /usr/share/pixmaps/synaptic.png gksu synaptic

I am using favourites (and favourites submenus / subsubmenus) only.