Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
Guess I'll have to find out for myself to really see how "unstable" it is then. Ima look into changing my sources.list!
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Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
I found my screenshot;
it does not match my sources file
## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Squeeze, but use at your own risk.
# deb http://packages.crunchbanglinux.org/statler statler main
## DEBIAN
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
## DEBIAN TESTING
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream importOh well, as long as it works, I'm happy.
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Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
@cristobal. The ftp repo entries are used in the main Debian Software tab. I don't see any need to have both the ftp and http entries. They do the same job. I'd remove the http ones and suggest the following 
## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Squeeze, but use at your own risk.
# deb http://packages.crunchbanglinux.org/statler statler main
## DEBIAN
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
## LINUXMINT
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Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
Thanks omns, they're gone.
## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Squeeze, but use at your own risk.
# deb http://packages.crunchbanglinux.org/statler statler main
## DEBIAN TESTING
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
## LINUX MINT
## Rolling with Debian Testing
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
Last edited by cristobal (2011-01-05 18:35:03)
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Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
A little history:
Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: "stable", "testing" and "unstable".
stable
The "stable" distribution contains the latest officially released distribution of Debian.
This is the production release of Debian, the one which we primarily recommend using.
The current "stable" distribution of Debian GNU/Linux is version 5.0.7, codenamed lenny. It was released on November 27th, 2010.
testing
The "testing" distribution contains packages that haven't been accepted into a "stable" release yet, but they are in the queue for that. The main advantage of using this distribution is that it has more recent versions of software.
See the Debian FAQ for more information on what is "testing" and how it becomes "stable".
The current "testing" distribution is squeeze.
unstable
The "unstable" distribution is where active development of Debian occurs. Generally, this distribution is run by developers and those who like to live on the edge.
The "unstable" distribution is called sid.
What is unstable? <<<--- link!
Unstable is where packages go after they've been uploaded by the maintainer, and cleared for release by the FTP master. If you use an unstable package, the only thing you can say with any certainty is that it compiled on the developer's system. It may contain horrible bugs.
When packages have met certain criteria, they are automatically moved from unstable to the current "testing" branch. For more information about testing, see the testing announcement.
For more information, see the Debian Releases page.
Now, I have never tried "sid" (unstable) but I read that it is decidely more stable than anything Ubu puts out as it's final release, and Ubu draws it's programs fron "sid".
Me, I'm staying "Squeeze" - there is not a single program I use to 100% of it's capacity now on this old computer.
Why do I need the biggest and best programs when my computer isn't even closely associated with the biggest and best. The Smithsonian called last week and was wondering if I wanted to donate it!
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Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
anonymous wrote:
The current CrunchBang release will stay as Squeeze afaik; I don't know if Corenominal will make a future release based on testing. Also if he decides on only using Stable then we still have about 2 years before Wheezy transitions to Stable.
If, in fact, Corenominal does stay with Stable, when Wheezy becomes the next stable release, will there be a need for a complete reinstall of Crunchbang? Or will apt-get dist-upgrade take care of the transition to the new stable release?
I would prefer a #! based only on testing rather than the current or next stable release. That is why I changed my sources to testing and Linux Mint, which I believe won't require dist-upgrades, but will continue to roll with Debian Testing.
Here is an interesting look at Debian branches and distros based on them.
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp … mp;start=0
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … ng+release
Last edited by cristobal (2011-01-05 20:58:49)
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Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
cristobal wrote:
If, in fact, Corenominal does stay with Stable, when Wheezy becomes the next stable release, will there be a need for a complete reinstall of Crunchbang? Or will apt-get dist-upgrade take care of the transition to the new stable release?
With all past releases of #!, a fresh reinstall was the recommended upgrade procedure to each new release. (However, there were certainly users who tried to release-upgrade, with varying degrees of success.)
Since the distro is now based on Debian and not Ubuntu, who knows if that will be the case going forward? Certainly it is a long time away (Squeeze hasn't even been released yet, and then it will be around 2 years until Wheezy.)
cristobal wrote:
I would prefer a #! based only on testing rather than the current or next stable release. That is why I changed my sources to testing and Linux Mint, which I believe won't require dist-upgrades, but will continue to roll with Debian Testing.
Actually, I recommend only using dist-upgrade (never just plain upgrade) if you're running Testing or Sid, as described here: http://manual.aptosid.com/en/sys-admin- … pt-upgrade
For most users who choose to stick with Squeeze once it goes Stable, plain old upgrade should probably suffice.
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Re: CrunchBang 10 "Statler" r20101205
The upgrade from one stable Debian release to another is the only upgrade path that Debian supports, so theoretically it should be possible to upgrade CrunchBang in the same way. That said, if you look at the way corenominal tweaks and fiddles the config files it may not be as simple as that. It would interesting to see how an upgrade goes, 'if and when' there is another release
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