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Topic: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

I think this is significant enough to sticky for a while. There have been several support requests from members trying to use unetbootin to install Statler. Using unetbootin can cause several problems including grub and login errors.

Please note that the recommended method is to use dd as per these instructions.

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/statler … stallation

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

I borked my system on my EeePC over the past weekend that required a complete reinstall.

The dd method linked above worked without a problem for me. wink

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Should there be a bit in the guide about making it persistent?  Just a thought.  I have #! 9 on my usb, and its persistence is beautiful and I don't want to wreck it by attempting a #! 10 install!

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Thanks for the sticky. First i tried the Universal USB Installer, and the result was the grub error. After searching this forum and testing the dd method everything works fine smile

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

@silince:  The bootable USB drive created using the dd method cannot be made persistent.  In fact, regardless of the size of the drive, you won't even be able to use it for other storage without removing the Statler image!  This is because you're basically turning the USB drive into a finalized virtual CD - the dd method overwrites the drive's MBR with the CD equivalent, which makes any storage on the drive outside of the ISO image inaccessible to the system.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Ah I see.  Has anyone successfully made a persistent Statler USB using the other methods?  I've made a few using Unetbootin before, but a colleague made me my #!9 on something else.  When our application server running our managed desktops goes down at work, I always whip out the stick and smug it up a bit.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

You can use the Debian installer to perform a full install on a USB stick. One of my spare computers with a busted hard drive is happily running Statler from an 8gb flash drive. The only "gotcha!" is to watch you install GRUB on the correct drive; in my case this was not a problem, since there is no internal hard drive any more. smile

If anyone knows an alternate method to perform a persistent USB install, please share! Perhaps pendrivelinux has some tips?

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

^ Regarding GRUB:  This may not be an issue with The Debian Installer, but when I did something similar using Ubuntu's Ubiquity installer, the only way I was able to make sure GRUB went on the USB drive (I used a HD at the time, but I'm sure this applies to a flash drive as well) was to remove the internal drive before booting from the install image.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Only way I could get it to install was to copy the iso to the unetbootin image of Debian testing that I had downloaded. Worked fine after that, but didn't give me many options. I'm using a Dell 1018 netbook and don't have a dvd drive

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Thanks for the fix
I was running into trouble with grub during the install the dd code worked like a charm. I wonder why unetbootin method doesn't work for this distro. It seems to work with others.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

So potentially, if I removed the HD of an old pc, whacked in the statler cd, and had the usb plugged in, I could do an install that way?  Might do some experiments...

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Just wanna confirm that this OpenSUSE workaround with SUSE Studio ImageWriter for Microsoft Windows works for me when it's done on a Win XP Pro SP3 rig.Should also work on Win 7 boxes as well.Just rename the completed .iso to .raw to use ImageWriter and it'll work just like dd albeit on Windows of course.

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So I used Unetbootin to make my usb stick and it totally fudged up the install.  Using win32diskimager saved the day.  Thank you for this, I wish I had paid more attention to the stickies!

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

My 2 favorite methods ( executive summary ;-)
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1.1. Make a FAT32 USB disk syslinux-bootable using (a customized version of) Slax boot install script.
1.2. Use a good file manager to open the ISO file and copy folder "live" to USB.
1.3. Create/copy a blank persistent file (live.rw)
1.4. Manually export boot menu entry from ISO to slax.cfg and add boot parameter "persistent".

2.0. Use "MultiSystem" utility available from www.liveusb.info.

The first method has served me very well (with numerous distributions tested) for the past couple of years in Linux world, and I've found the second very handy for the past couple of months...

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

The dd method did not work for me.  I'm on a notebook (company owned), with a locked BIOS. Booting from disc is disabled, but booting from USB is not.  Unetbootin version 471 worked without issue. All versions after 471 would not boot.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

How do you remove the disk image? I put the .iso on a USB stick using the dd method, and after reformatting and repartitioning the disk, I still see the Crunchbang installer disk in my file browser disk list, though I can't mount it, and it takes up no space.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

^ I think you might need to give it a new partition table; this is in the 'Devices' menu in Gparted.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

I don't know, both method is not working on my Asus A3HF series. I have change my primary boot to removable device, but it is not working, i have follow all instruction carefully, right now, i'm unable to use my cd rom because it's broken, so i'm trying to install latest respin using this method, but it is not work on my laptop, Slax and Puppy are work and able to boot from my flash disk though. Please help, i've no idea.

EDIT: my Asus A3HF BIOS is American Megatrend.Inc (Ami Bios), is there any idea to deal with this matter? For your information, i'm forgot to mention earlier that Slax and Puppy is installed on 512 Mb Flash disk and currently i'm using 4 Gb Flash disk for crunchbang r20110207. I've already using syslinux to reformat the flashdisk to USB ZIP format but it still unable to boot.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Got it work now, dd method is work perfectly. I've made a mistake when choosing boot device on BIOS, i should left it on Hard Disk in boot device, not changing it to Removable Device, and only change the USB to the first option on Hard Disk boot device.
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I'm a new member & using an Acer Aspire One via a USB key, I tried unsuccellfully to write to it from Ubuntu  using make startup disk, but then used your dd method which did the trick. Still finding my way with #! and I wonder if you could advise me on the best way to get Java as I intend to install #!

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Hi, welcome to #!

Once installed, the first time you log in to your desktop a script (cb-welcome) will run and you can install Java, as well as other popular 'add-ons' by following the instructions.

Hope this helps.

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

sadi wrote:

.2.0. Use "MultiSystem" utility available from www.liveusb.info.

@Sadi, Have you manged to install MultiSystem in#! Statller or is it intended only to work on Ubuntu?

I been using it quite alot. I just removed Ubuntu and replaced with #! but am not able to install it again to add and remove distros from my usb.

It is a really great tool and I would love to continue using it in #!

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

This isn't working for me sad

Rather than post here I've created a new topic: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … b-booting/

Can anyone here help?

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Hi

I have twice created live USB installations of #! on a windows machine, through pendrivelinux.com. Rather than using Unetbootin, they require using their Universal_USB_installer.  There is a menu item for #!.10, and it seems to work great.  I monkeyed with the background /  wallpaper and it is persistant.  Haven't tried making a live USB from #! machine / CD.  But this works.

Visit:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/crunchbang … l-windows/

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Re: CrunchBang 10 Statler ISO image to USB in Linux

Addendum:

I double checked and I DO NOT have persistence in my #! Live USB install.  hmmmmm  Bogus.
Mea culpa, grovel, grovel.   

-schlem

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