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So will adding only Testing to my sources.list still give me the newest package versions? Unstable sounds a little too risky for me. All I want is a stable Debian but with the newest package version in the repos, and I think from what I've read about this using Testing will give me this. But I thought I would post and ask before I get on with it.
Thanks.
^ Yes, Testing is quite usable. As you said. Change your sources to Testing and you will be fine. But be aware of what is going to be removed/installed anyway. It could have some minor glitches here and there. But it won't never be as stable as Stable and never as new as Sid.
But it seems you are a bit unsure, if so, I admit I would not recommend any of the "rolling" Debian branches to bloody beginners.
...I would not recommend any of the "rolling" Debian branches to bloody beginners.
This sort of comment is unnecessary 
ivanovnegro wrote:...I would not recommend any of the "rolling" Debian branches to bloody beginners.
This sort of comment is unnecessary
Eh, what?? I really did not mean it in any offending sense! Maybe it sounds so. I am not a native English speaker, maybe the word "bloody" was not a good choice. Not sure. And new users to Testing should be advised about the possible issues.
I don't think he meant it in a derogative way, we Serbs think of blood as a good thing
Thank you Big Koraco.
I am not a native English speaker, maybe the word "bloody" was not a good choice. Not sure.
No, the choice is okay, the interpretation is my fault. Bloody can have different contexts in English. Here in Australia its is generally a derogatory adjective. i.e. you're a bloody idiot!
I can see though what you meant to say. Something like beginners getting their hands dirty and bloody 
In this context I'd say that if you're prepared to break and fix things, it is the best way to learn 
^ Reminds me of the "German" Joke with the guy in a restaurant
- "Waiter, can I have a bloody steak?"
- "Sure! Do you want some fucking potatoes with it?"
http://www.dict.cc/?s=blutiger+Anf%C3%A4nger
Last edited by machinebacon (2011-09-24 23:03:35)
No, the choice is okay, the interpretation is my fault. Bloody can have different contexts in English. Here in Australia its is generally a derogatory adjective. i.e. you're a bloody idiot!
I can see though what you meant to say. Something like beginners getting their hands dirty and bloody
Ah, ok, I understand our misunderstanding. No problem. I think anyway I won't use the word "bloody" so often as it indeed does not sound so good. Because a "bloody beginner" could also sound negative I suppose. And of course I agree with your last sentence about using Testing.
^ It was indeed taken from German. You know, I am speaking 5 languages flawlessly, English is my "worst" and last in the list. Daily I am speaking 3 languages and sometimes I mix the expressions and invent new ones.
There are regional and national differences in language also to trip you up, some words mean something totally different in one country or region than another.
Like the sign said English spoken, American understood.
No offense take, ivanovnegro. Indeed I am pretty new to Debian. Before this all I really used was Ubuntu and it's derivatives for years, so the whole rolling thing is pretty new to me.
But still, from what I read if I go Testing it's still going to be pretty hard to break my system. Besides, if I run into any trouble at all I can always come and ask this very knowledgeable community.
Anyways thanks for your post. Think I'll give Testing a go in the next day or two when I have the time to really play with it.
Besides going Testing, I know I read a post in these forums of a method that is supposed to be safer than apt-pinning for getting the new releases of packages. But for the life of me I cannot find that thread now. Anyone here know what I'm talking about?
^ Do you mean backports?
Not sure but I think going Testing, that's it. I prefer it rather than apt pinning.
Anyway try it out and post your problems at the dark side, the Testing/Unstable section.
I can help with switching to testing.
^ Do you mean backports?
Not sure but I think going Testing, that's it. I prefer it rather than apt pinning.Anyway try it out and post your problems at the dark side, the Testing/Unstable section.
I tried enabling backports in my Synaptic, but it didn't seem to do anything. I didn't have any new versions of apps in my repos. I'm guessing enabling backports doesn't do that?
ivanovnegro wrote:^ Do you mean backports?
Not sure but I think going Testing, that's it. I prefer it rather than apt pinning.Anyway try it out and post your problems at the dark side, the Testing/Unstable section.
I tried enabling backports in my Synaptic, but it didn't seem to do anything. I didn't have any new versions of apps in my repos. I'm guessing enabling backports doesn't do that?
No it does, but you need to make it known through preferences as well.
I tried enabling backports in my Synaptic, but it didn't seem to do anything. I didn't have any new versions of apps in my repos. I'm guessing enabling backports doesn't do that?
Many things need to be installed explicitly by you from backports. Look at my sigs for more infos.
Will this work with staying with stable?
Package: *
Pin: release n=statler
Pin-Priority: 1001
Package: *
Pin: release n=squeeze
Pin-Priority: 900
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 400
Last edited by Tjman87 (2011-12-14 17:46:14)
Thanks for this, everything went smoothly for installing Shotwell 0.11.5 from Testing.
Used:
sudo apt-get -t testing install shotwell
It is probably already mentioned in this thread, but . . .
To get anything - to install from the squeeze-backports repro, I had to " # " out the Crunchbang repros first.
Seems to be conflicts between #! and backports or multi-media repros, at times.
You should, also, alter the Apt-Pinning order accordingly, if need be.
Last edited by vrkalak (2012-01-25 17:10:07)
^ this was even with specifying "-t squeeze-backports"?
^ @ pvsage . . . yes it was.
I tried "apt-get install -t squeeze-backports <appname>" several times
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Last edited by vrkalak (2012-01-26 01:14:02)
^ It could be the, in my opinion, bad configuration of Statler and enabled backports by default as also the preference for Squeeze.
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