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Topic: Now I have Krunchbang!

I just recently installed Kde with the command

sudo apt-get install kde-full

and it's working great!

the only problem that I ran into is that kde does install it's own network manager that isn't wicd so I had to remove "network-manager" afterwards

just thought that I'd let all of you know that it works perfectly as long as you don't mind using up another 2 gigs on your HD. smile

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Re: Now I have Krunchbang!

Did you do any customizations?

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Re: Now I have Krunchbang!

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Did you do any customizations?

yes I did a little bit. I added some widgets for weather. (you can't run conky in KDE or at least I don't know a way yet.) I'm surprised about how fast it is!

in the past with kde I've found it slow and cluggy but now it's almost as fast as openbox.

the only thing that I miss is my Open-box menu sad I find the Kde menu frustrating.

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(you can't run conky in KDE or at least I don't know a way yet.)

You have to handle the background with Feh...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … h_KDesktop
http://mylittledesktop.blogspot.com/200 … h-kde.html
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=63986

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Re: Now I have Krunchbang!

It sounds great and all, but what are the advantages over openbox besides fancier eye candy and effects?

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It sounds great and all, but what are the advantages over openbox besides fancier eye candy and effects?

That is so obvious. KDE has so many applications with the letter K and it uses your ram because unused ram is wasted ram.

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He's right though, Kmenu is the worst.

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the main reason is that I wanted to see if games like bzflag would work on Kde I am delighted to find that they do. whenever I try to run them on openbox xorg crashes sad

I'm only using kde for piddling around. what I found quite interesting is that kde seems to be almost as fast as openbox. smile

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Re: Now I have Krunchbang!

It's a misnomer to say you are running Krunchbang. What you are running is Debian KDE.

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Re: Now I have Krunchbang!

crunchy wrote:

I'm only using kde for piddling around. what I found quite interesting is that kde seems to be almost as fast as openbox. smile

The differences are much more noticeable on lower-spec machines (e.g., my netbook) once you're dealing with a decent modern processor and a decent video card, performance differences are barely noticeable (though they may come out when you're stressing your system).

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I found openbox to be slower on my machine than Compiz-standalone. Using the GPU to render the desktop saves valuable CPU cycles. That means... on my desktop. My netbook with it's Intel GPU is not so sure about that.

When it comes to speed... I don't own any old machines anymore, my desktop can handle a full-blown KDE (and the netbook of course if I carefully select what I need to see), so the only kind of speed I care about is my workflow. KDE eats my workflow, burps and says (you might want to read this in Patrick's voice from spongebob): "Don't I look pretty?" The same thing does Gnome3 by the way...

But, on the other hand, KDE can look so damn good. Some times I use KDE just to play around with the effects and that Plasmoid stuff. I'll eventually switch from Gnome to KDE (when Gnome3 is standard), because I have this feeling the Gnome4 Desktop will look like the LCARS on the Enterprise.

So let's have a summary of what we learned here:

1. Install KDE on #!
2. Have KDE on #!
3. Works.
4. Be happy.

Did I miss anything?

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You can have a right-click menu in KDE and dump the Kmenu. To do this, right click on your desktop, open the Desktop settings and set the launcher for the right click button in mouse settings.

I'm running KDE on Arch as well and I have to say I prefer it over Gnome anytime. In my opinion, qt4 just looks way better and the performance is just as snappy (little more resources on the CPU, but I don't mind actually using what I paid for)

That said, I think Unity is starting to come along nicely so who knows... tongue

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Re: Now I have Krunchbang!

@Unia I'll have to try that. if I can make that work then I might use kde more hmm

and I agree with all of you. I like kde much more than gnome.

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I agree with all of you. I like kde much more than gnome.

I'll give you a month wink

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I actually like gnome better than KDE...but I first tried both of them around KDE 4.0...I've heard it's gotten a lot better recently.  Meanwhile gnome-shell has some potential IMO, but still feels too rough for a release (e.g., customization seems very intimidating and I couldn't find documentation anywhere), I'd say the same thing about Ubuntu's Unity.

In either case, I'm using a netbook for most of my computing, and openbox is faster than either by far.  And now that I can get openbox to do just about everything I ever wanted from gnome/kde, there's really no competition.

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Meanwhile gnome-shell has some potential IMO

I tried a gnome 3 live system a few days ago. I suddenly thought about using KDE when the transition in the Arch repo is done. Then I tried KDE and suddenly knew that'll be compiz standalone then. I'm not an enemy of innovation, but this is... *shivers*

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omns wrote:
crunchy wrote:

I agree with all of you. I like kde much more than gnome.

I'll give you a month wink

How much time did you give me? I'm thinking of going back to Openbox lol

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omns wrote:

It's a misnomer to say you are running Krunchbang. What you are running is Debian KDE.

+1 on that ...
Would be fun to create a REAL Krunchbang though, i.e. Conky, right click menu, tint2 style panel layout and a black theme of course. All that blue in KDE is really giving me the blues !!

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I think that that would be cool too. I changed  all of those blues to black. that was the first thing that I did!

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The cool thing about KDE is that it makes the database file for the package manager easier to compress :-D

KDM
Kedit
Krowser
Kemail
Kessenger
Kwitterclient
Kazureus... wait what?

EDIT: They must have thought: "K is almost never the first letter of a word, that's cool." Too sad none of them spoke German...

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omns wrote:
crunchy wrote:

I agree with all of you. I like kde much more than gnome.

I'll give you a month wink


I have now removed all of kde. I just got sick of it. it was slow and made my computer boot slower :shiver:

goodbye kde. hello nice smooth openbox.

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crunchy wrote:
omns wrote:
crunchy wrote:

I agree with all of you. I like kde much more than gnome.

I'll give you a month wink


I have now removed all of kde. I just got sick of it. it was slow and made my computer boot slower :shiver:

goodbye kde. hello nice smooth openbox.

This what happen to me when i'm using Kubuntu and OpenSUSE, KDE looks so nice in the beginning, but it's just so frustrating in the end. It's just my opinion anyway. smile

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muzieca wrote:

This what happen to me when i'm using Kubuntu and OpenSUSE, KDE looks so nice in the beginning, but it's just so frustrating in the end. It's just my opinion anyway. smile

Maybe that's just because of SUSE and Kubuntu ... was running "plain" KDE in Arch for a while, which was fine (until I blew up my Arch install by trying experimental graphics drivers and X-server, but that's another story). Think I'm going to try, one of these days, but on a separate (Debian KDE) Install.

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^ Yes, i think you're right, but if i have to choose one between a few various DE, maybe i'll prefer lightweight DE such as LXDE or Xfce now, especially on this old machine of mine. tongue

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Awebb wrote:

EDIT: They must have thought: "K is almost never the first letter of a word, that's cool." Too sad none of them spoke German...

Actually, the inventor of KDE is German and was in school in Germany...Supposedly it's a play on "Common Desktop Environment" and instead they used K for Kool desktop environment. 

So this happened to be in the mid-90's when it was considered cool to misspell cool with a 'k'.  Unfortunately, they went completely overboard with their naming convention (though it does make sense considering the mission of KDE).  And then the mid-90's ended, and it was no longer cool to arbitrarily start words with 'K'....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE#History