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spun out of #nerdvana on irc.freenode.net yes you should try it for the no rules to freedom goodness available. I thought we should talk about WM hopping that is something very akin yet different than distro hopping.
I'll go first though I stick to FVWM now mostly.
FVWM
Openbox
Pekwm
these are Duke Cogburn's poison FVWM being the real crux.
I'll follow 
WM hopping so much in this last 2 months now.
Openbox
Fluxbox
Scrotwm
Awesome WM
WMFS
FVWM
Speak about crux, almost forgot to try Crux Linux (off-topic) 
@muzi you must be thinking of DHA lol http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … s/page/29/
Edit: in regards to crux
the other stuff is very much DHA
also my list includes chrome browser as a WM.. a sickness
Last edited by rstrcogburn (2011-04-28 06:26:30)
Running peacefully alongside eachother:
- Openbox
- XFCE 4.8
- i3
- E17
- xmonad
- scrotwm
I use the top three most.
I used to alter between Compiz, Openbox and E17. Now I use Compiz on whatever can do 3D decently and Openbox on all 2D preferred devices.
i often wonder about gnustep or even higher level stuff like etoile, anyone like this flavor.. seems to be good framework
@ awebb nice, the categorizm is so like you dood. how does that compiz standalone fair? It seems with dzen it's pretty full fledged.
I was trying to set up compiz standalone before but I kept crashing out...must've been doing something wrong. Back in my gnome days, I took to preferring mutter over compiz. Has anyone tried mutter standalone?
Well WM's are really my weakness since I don't distro hop that much anymore. Here are some of the ones I have used in the past year:
Fluxbox
Openbox
Xfce
Gnome
JWM
Awesome
Scrotwm
E17
Ratpoison (too much work to set up)
I found that FVWM just wasn't my thing but I love what you guys are doing with it. Oddly I find myself using my slightly modified version of Bigbenaugust's JWM setup (http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … wm-config/) more than the others right now. If I needed a tiling WM I would probably use Scrotwm more but I don't so it just sits there lonely and languishing on my hard drive most of the time. I guess E17, JWM, and Fluxbox interest me more than the others right now.
I've almost tried them all, but keep coming back to Compiz standalone and Openbox on computers that can't run Compiz. We'll see if the new Ubuntu with Unity can make me change 
I thought we should talk about WM hopping that is something very akin yet different than distro hopping.
I'll go first though I stick to FVWM now mostly.
FVWM
Openbox
Pekwm
Without seeing this I made this post this morning, it must be in the air: http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3055#p3055
Sometimes it is all so nice and quiet on using your AB install that you might get restless and want to discover new ways of doing things.
Instead of distro hopping, exploring different window managers might be a good option.
There is a lot of options and choices to discover and it broadens your view what is possible in the look and feel of your OS.
Btw I come exactly the same list, although my preference order is ob, pekwm and fvwm and both last I have to explore more to really fully appreciate them on their respective worth. I find configuration and getting to establish and know the new keyboard shortcuts quite time consuming.
And I would like to see more info in the pekwn and fvwm threads on this forum with config suggestions and ideas.
I'm not going to hop in the nearest future. I know where I'm going and I know what I want. ))
But I used to hop a lot before.
Last edited by tartan (2011-04-28 16:40:50)
No way Unity is taking over Compiz standalone. It is still buggy as hell and one can't even change some Compiz settings or it'll crash!
How I love my Compiz standalone 
(if only I could have a globalmenu and those lovely overlay scrollbars!)
Hello, my name is Jeff and I'm a WM hopper
Fluxbox
PeKWM
Openbox
Xfce
JWM
IceWM
FVWM (installed but not set up yet)
And still looking at others
Fluxbox
ScrotWM
Fvwm
Openbox
Mostly stick to fluxbox these days; change over to ScrotWM if I know I'll be editing configuration files because I prefer to do that in a [tiled] terminal(s).
At some point I always go back using Fvwm - it's an addiction.
Tried some of the other minimalist wm's like PeckWm and TinyWM, as well as, tiling wm's Awesome and Xmonad. Would have probably stuck with Xmonad, but couldn't get motivated to learn haskell.
Last edited by PackRat (2011-05-02 02:21:53)
so I'm a bit surprised with myself, but I'm installing xubuntu...it looks like the right mix of speed and new sofware for me at least right now...
Historically:
KDE
XFCE
Gnome
Currently:
XFCE
dwm
awesome
euclid-wm
ratpoison
i3
wmii
openbox
fluxbox
tty+tmux (this one is super sweet)
wmi (nostalgia?)
bkwm
catwm
The only one I really "haven't" tried is xmonad b/c I don't want the haskell compiler. Presently I'm sticking with the default #! XFCE layout which is allowing me to get more actual work done since it's more-or-less transparent (not in my way).
I'm used to GNOME, but I tried out KDE 4.6 for a while but didn't like it. So I went back to GNOME. Now I'm on Openbox and much happier than I was with GNOME, so that's where I'm going to stay. GNOME's tools are pretty cool though - especially network manager.
I'm not going to hop in the nearest future. I know where I'm going and I know what I want. ))
But I used to hop a lot before.
Tha'ts very admirable but you didn't even mention a WM
Back to GNOME3 for me. Figured that with the new gtk3 it'd be best to have the full blown environment instead of a mixed gtk2/gtk3 system (which got messed up updating anyway)
Maybe later when there are more standalone gtk3 tools I'll built another Compiz standalone setup.
dwm
xmonad
JWM
openbox
started years ago with blackbox on xp then got into linux via xubuntu
I will try
FVWM
but i like the look of scrotwm for my development box
For DE's the only one I can really tolerate for an extend period of time is XFCE especially when I need to use the computer constructive.
WM's
Openbox - Still remains a favorite and is my favorite stacking WM!
Echinus WM - My first real experience with a tiling WM. I like it but fullscreen issues with videos make it unusable for me. Also it has no native tray! Still a great WM!
Subtle WM - My current WM and so far the best tiling WM for me. It's just the right blend of being minimal but with some "bells and whistles" like a native tray and some "sublets" for some eye-candy.
Only negative is that the latest version has a new way of themeing and the config seems to become a bit "bloated" and a bit to complex or complicated for "regular" users like myself. I haven't really devoted much time to the new version though so I could be premature here and I hope I am because it's my favorite WM right now.
Ratpoison - Just started it and first impression is not bad at all but it's probably a bit too minimal for me.
Also there is no native tray!
I know there is dzen but I really dislike it!
I tried DE's like KDE and GNOME ,especially KDE because I really wanted to like it, but I can stand them after a short while. It's funny because I think the whole #! concept and philosophy for the more minimal and understated approach has me really disliking Desktop Environments with XFCE being an exception.
I really like the concept of a full blown "suite" for my desktop but every time I give KDE or GNOME a go it doesn't take long before I get tired of it and go back to WM only.
Another weird thing is I don't really "need" a tiler as my WM because I don't really fit the original target audience but I love them anyway....... 
"pointless rambling over"
Last edited by servingwater (2011-05-03 17:23:26)
And I would like to see more info in the pekwn and fvwm threads on this forum with config suggestions and ideas.
Wow. Lilke one of the few links to my video which I didn't place on my own. )
What sort of ideas would you like? What I do when I want to hack together something cool is just go and see what people want their window managers to do and then try to implement it. This way I made:
- Always on top (vey simple, explained seveal times in diffeent places by Thomas Adam)
- Autoshade (KDE users at Russian Linux users forums described that feature)
- Group windows (stolen from Compiz)
- Smart launch (heard about it somewhere, thought it is worth thinking about)
- Quake terminal (a very popular request)
- Pipe menus are stolen right from crunchbang
- Clickable conky - I once made a proof of concept, but I don't use it, so I dropped it, but it's pretty easy with fvwmbuttons
Last edited by tartan (2011-05-05 10:56:48)
I haven't been hopping that much.
- Openbox
- Fluxbox (shortly with Fluxbuntu)
- Pekwm (First time I installed Pekwm, I soon went back to Openbox and then hopped between them sometime. Now I'm totally pekwmed myself and couple last times I went Openbox have proved that there is no going back to OB for me. Differences are perhaps small but they do matter.)
- I installed Awesome and have now tried it couple times but it hasn't really turned me on.
- Pekwm (First time I installed Pekwm, I soon went back to Openbox and then hopped between them sometime. Now I'm totally pekwmed myself and couple last times I went Openbox have proved that there is no going back to OB for me. Differences are perhaps small but they do matter.)
Hanna, what advantages do you see in Pekwm over Openbox? I've been playing with pekwm a bit but perhaps not enough since I don't see much of a difference yet.
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