Topic: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

Hello Members, i'd like to give Crunchbang 'statler' a go, and would like to download it's latest build without having to use 'torrent' software, is there a website that has a standard download link for the distro.

I just don't like the idea of 'torrent' providers.

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Livio

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

Unless someone is willing to mirror the ISO you want, you are out of luck.

Is there a solid reason you do not want to use bittorrent? It's not illegal to use said software so long as what you download is legal. Anyways you are not the first person to want a HTTP download:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … b-release/

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

...or do a Debian net-install (http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/) and add the crunchbang repositories later, for example

# /etc/apt/sources.list
# Official Debian Squeeze
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
# Statler
deb http://packages.crunchbanglinux.org/statler statler main 
# Multimedia Repos
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
# Security
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main

and install the crunchbang scripts and packages plus copy the files from /etc/skel/ to your /home

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

Thanks for all the help from members, I did fall onto a website during my searching with a possible safe download of crunchbang's latest release, the link to it is below...

Openbox 32bit
http://www.wupload.com/file/21846757

XFCE 32bit
http://www.wupload.com/file/21855292


I'll have to give it a try during the week, I'm only on a mobile broadband connection at home, so i'll do the download at my workplace.

I just like to say, I think crunchbang's desktop look is great, and from what I've seen on YouTube, and read through the forum the mobile broardband setup should hopefully be straight forward, I'm still very much a newbie to Linux but think the distro's os's feel and run really great.

Kind regards

Last edited by liviococcia (2011-07-04 14:16:40)

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

I don't want to spoil the party, but I think that a ISO download via torrent is safer and surely quicker than downloading a file from a filehoster. The torrent files are "alive" (and most definitely work, as the seeders probably have used it to install their system), have an md5 checksum and you can share your copy with those who want to download. If you are not a paying member of wupload, you can not resume the download if it fails.

Nevermind, it's your decision smile

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

http://www.filehosting.org/file/details … e-i686.iso (XFCE 32bit)

grab it from here, i have uploaded it for those who don't like torrents.

Last edited by machinebacon (2011-07-04 15:05:31)

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

grab it from here, i have uploaded it for those who don't like torrents.

i'm still pretty curious as to why anybody would not like torrents. is it because they taste bad?

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

rhowaldt wrote:

grab it from here, i have uploaded it for those who don't like torrents.

i'm still pretty curious as to why anybody would not like torrents. is it because they taste bad?

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If you read the previous posts, you notice that the OP asked for an alternate download. Later the OP provided a link to a filehoster, a file of unknown origin. My idea is, that before the OP (and other people) download an (probably!) 'unsafe' copy I better upload the original (torrent-downloaded) iso. Nothing to do with taste, but in some countries, institutions, depending on ISP it is not possible to download torrents. #! is not hosting the Openbox and XFCE distributions on crunchbanglinux.org anymore.

But if you have a better idea, I'm all ears.

Last edited by machinebacon (2011-07-04 14:17:38)

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

Hello All, i just edited my post to include the link to the 'XFCE' version on the WUpload site, as i understand it this version is the more 'newbie' user friendly version.
regards

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

The wupload download links are from this site: http://www.limirror.com/
I got my copy from there too. The MD5 checksum was OK, so the file is OK.

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

@machinebacon: i think you misunderstood me. i never meant to criticize your suggestion (actually, i agree with you on providing a safe download), and i have read the posts above. i am just curious as to the reasons why the OP did not want to use a torrent download. all he said about it was:

I just don't like the idea of 'torrent' providers.

but that's no explanation. he does not have to give me an explanation, but if someone could, i'd be grateful because it would help my curiosity. his words also suggest it is not a country/ISP thing, but his own preference.

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

rhowaldt wrote:

@machinebacon: i think you misunderstood me. i never meant to criticize your suggestion (actually, i agree with you on providing a safe download), and i have read the posts above. i am just curious as to the reasons why the OP did not want to use a torrent download. all he said about it was:

I just don't like the idea of 'torrent' providers.

but that's no explanation. he does not have to give me an explanation, but if someone could, i'd be grateful because it would help my curiosity. his words also suggest it is not a country/ISP thing, but his own preference.

The misunderstanding stems from the fact that you quoted me, and not the OP wink Sorted.

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

Hi, Sorry rhowaldt, I just think that any downloads be they files, apps or operating systems that are created by reputable organisations be it an opensource distribution, or comercial software, shouldn't need the use or any third parties tools, or  download 'management' installs to interact between my personal computer and the files i intend on using within the computer.

They maybe other better reasons that are beyond my knowledge, or forum members may think the concerns I have are unjustified, but I would rather not take any unnecessary risks with regards to my 'personal' computer.

Regards

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

You realize that CrunchBang isn't made by any organization; its just one developer.

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

Reputable organizations? Unnecessary risks??? Have you read this?

DISCLAIMER

CrunchBang Linux is not recommended for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. CrunchBang Linux could possibly make your computer go CRUNCH! BANG! Therefore CrunchBang Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law.

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

liviococcia wrote:

Hi, Sorry rhowaldt, I just think that any downloads be they files, apps or operating systems that are created by reputable organisations be it an opensource distribution, or comercial software, shouldn't need the use or any third parties tools, or  download 'management' installs to interact between my personal computer and the files i intend on using within the computer.

thanks for the explanation liviococcia. you are entitled to your preference, as it is indeed your personal computer. however, i can't help but think: wouldn't you always use some third party tool to download something from the internet? or have you coded your own browser/ftp software/etc (this is actually possible, and not meant to ridicule you)?

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

It is a common misconception that internet = www = http/ftp. In fact, downloading Linux isos as torrents is the preferred way of most Linux users in the community. It is the ultimate form of simple contribution absolutely everyone can make. While having a nice primary download location is nice, it is hard to pay for all that bandwidth. Home bandwidth is free for most of us, with unlimited up/download quota. While the throughput of a single connection might be limited, the combined strength of a thousand peers can beat any web server.

I'd say one should use torrent unless the respective ISP blocks it or for whatever other technical reasons. As rhowaldt already introduced, every piece of code but the kernel itself is third-party. By the way: I was an Opera user for many years, it comes with it's own torrent client. Following your logic, downloading an iso over torrent in a distro that shippes Opera by default would be fine? Downloading Ubuntu via torrent is fine as well, since they ship transmission with the iso?

Or do we simply get you wrong with your "third party", and you simply dislike having to use something other than your browser, because it is inconvenient?

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

I have an ISP that blocks torrents (My Download cap is 250GB a month, but I have an upload cap as well: 500MB.  Hellish, right? Cross it, and I have to pay for another month of service.)  I live in a rural town, so no, I can't find another provider.  Without them, I have no service at all.

I'm stuck using Ubuntu for now.  I liked Crunchbang 9, but I'll have to find another way to give this a try.

Last edited by rennock (2011-10-14 05:30:21)

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

^ You can do the Debian minimal installation method and then add the Crunchbang repositories to install the configuration files. Advantage: you have a really slim system which you can build up as you like. Disadvantage: it's not automated smile

omns has a script or an instruction/how-to for this process, you can search the forums or visit his website.

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

Would downloading from just regular broadband work?

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

I think that a lot of people don't really understand bittorrent.  This is why I made the thread "showcase your legal torrents" unfortunately... doesn't seem like most people had many to share.

I really wish that people would stop pirating stuff until we can fix the laws in various countries to the effect that its not illegal.  *sigh* Idealism is painful sometimes.

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

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Last edited by BoredOOMM (2011-10-23 04:11:37)

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

I was pretty nervous about using torrents as well, but having used them to pull down more than a few ISO's, it fantastic! It allows you to get the file and share at the same time, plus, if there's a hiccup on the network somewhere, torrents will wait and continue when the interruption has passed. Not so with direct downloads...

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Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

I don't mind using torrents, but no one is seeding the openbox amd64 version right now, and the links are dead on limirror posted above, can someone please seed?

Edit - I did find this link while searching around, its a bit older of an image, but I've seen that you can update it once installed: http://crunchbang.linuxfreedom.com/download.html

HTH someone, I will continue my torrent though, hopefully someone will seed and I can keep it running.

Last edited by wokka (2011-10-28 15:52:40)

Re: Any alternatives to using 'Torrent' software for Crunchbang download?

^
Crap. I don't have it to seed. Maybe grab the Xfce version and [sudo apt-get install/remove] 'til it's what you want...

Anybody got a better idea?

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