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Topic: ScrotWM tutorial available?

I'm sorry to ask that, but I was not capable of finding good material. As I'm new to ScrotWM there's a lot of stuff to learn, but the material that I found was not very conclusive. I read trough the manpage and through one or two articles, there are some things I understand now, but much more things that are mysteries for myself. Maybe you guys have some hints or tips for me, nothing on a special topic, more some sort of "general" introduction! smile

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Re: ScrotWM tutorial available?

The definitive #! resource on scrotwm - link

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I failed. Hard. Thanks for that!

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Re: ScrotWM tutorial available?

As gutterslob says on the thread, there's not much to be said. You got a .desktop file for autostarting the desired apps if you're using GDM, and the rest is .Xdefaults and so on. I recommend a suite of CLI apps, like mc, moc, mpd, calcurse, centerim, mcabber, mutt, mplayer, rtorrent and so on. They're all keyboard-centric, so you can do all your non-browsing without touching the mouse. or if you use vimperator for FF, or a browser like uzbl, you don't need the keyboard at all.

Check the "show off your .Xdefaults" thread, and look for fonts like Dina, Artwiz, MonteCarlo, Profont. The small bitmaps work wonders on a tiler.

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Re: ScrotWM tutorial available?

el_koraco wrote:

As gutterslob says on the thread, there's not much to be said. You got a .desktop file for autostarting the desired apps if you're using GDM, and the rest is .Xdefaults and so on. I recommend a suite of CLI apps, like mc, moc, mpd, calcurse, centerim, mcabber, mutt, mplayer, rtorrent and so on. They're all keyboard-centric, so you can do all your non-browsing without touching the mouse. or if you use vimperator for FF, or a browser like uzbl, you don't need the keyboard at all.

Check the "show off your .Xdefaults" thread, and look for fonts like Dina, Artwiz, MonteCarlo, Profont. The small bitmaps work wonders on a tiler.

...But it's important to note that you can still use your graphical programs, and you aren't forced to use the keyboard. Also, .xdefaults has nothing to do with scrotwm, your just over complicating the subject, and going into talk that has nothing to do with the window manager.

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AwesomeFist wrote:

Also, .xdefaults has nothing to do with scrotwm, your just over complicating the subject, and going into talk that has nothing to do with the window manager.

I'm pretty sure he can take it, it's not string theory. I'd give you a rolleyez, but I'll just let you ponder your unnecessary aggressiveness in silence.

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Re: ScrotWM tutorial available?

el_koraco wrote:
AwesomeFist wrote:

Also, .xdefaults has nothing to do with scrotwm, your just over complicating the subject, and going into talk that has nothing to do with the window manager.

I'm pretty sure he can take it, it's not string theory. I'd give you a rolleyez, but I'll just let you ponder your unnecessary aggressiveness in silence.

I'm not trying to be aggressive or suggest it's complicated, but he asked about scrotwm, and .xdefaults has nothing to do with that. I'm sorry if I appeared as unnecessary aggressive.

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Re: ScrotWM tutorial available?

I forgive you! big_smile
What I meant was, scrotwm is extremely simple, it's a bar and tiled windows. You do most of the personalization via GTK, .Xdefaults, fonts, and stuff.

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It's fair to say that both of you are right on some level. Chill out, chaps.

I agree with what Fisto's saying. ScrotWM by itself is just the window manager and you shouldn't necessarily associate with terminal themes/behaviour. People can get confused, somewhat.

On the other hand, I can see where Benny's coming from. I've had a few people ask me why their ScrotWM desktop doesn't look like mine. Same story for other tilers like or minimalist WMs like Musca, Dwm, Cwm...etc. People who aren't familiar might look at screenshots and think setting up the WM will automatically lead to multicolored music player or editor setups.

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I apologize for going off-topic. Just feel free to ask if you have any questions, preferably in that ScrotWM thread Benny (el_koraco) linked to. Apologies for any confusion caused.

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Thank you all for your replies!

As gutterslob says on the thread, there's not much to be said. You got a .desktop file for autostarting the desired apps if you're using GDM, and the rest is .Xdefaults and so on. I recommend a suite of CLI apps, like mc, moc, mpd, calcurse, centerim, mcabber, mutt, mplayer, rtorrent and so on. They're all keyboard-centric, so you can do all your non-browsing without touching the mouse. or if you use vimperator for FF, or a browser like uzbl, you don't need the keyboard at all.

Those applications were the reasons for myself to try out a tiling window manager, I went away from graphical programs more and more. Except browsing the net (.. which I do with Firefox) I'm doing pretty much everything via the command line now (moc, ssh, vim .. there is not much more I do need, except some shellcommands.). A full desktop environment or even a GUI like OpenBox was getting more and more sort of a waste of ressources.

I'm not trying to be aggressive or suggest it's complicated, but he asked about scrotwm, and .xdefaults has nothing to do with that. I'm sorry if I appeared as unnecessary aggressive.

I don't want to "use" things, I want to use and understand them. I really want to dig into this topic and so I have no problems with more information than I asked for - but your demur also helped me .. so thanks!

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I apologize for going off-topic. Just feel free to ask if you have any questions, preferably in that ScrotWM thread Benny (el_koraco) linked to. Apologies for any confusion caused.

No need to apologize, I like hearing people's opinion about things. I knew, that it's a (more or less) long way to reach stylism and "goodlookingness" (Sorry for creating new words!), but hey .. the way is the goal! big_smile
For further questions, I'll stick to the thread you suggested!

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