[SOLVED]Help with upgrading Scrotwm (Page 1 of 2)

I don't think so. I get this in Terminal when trying to install it:

x11proto-xext-dev is already the newest version.
x11proto-xext-dev set to manually installed.

Debian Stable is indeed great for its stability but it's a pain in the ass for its old packages. Think I might switch to Unstable so I don't have to mess with compiling every new package that I want.

By the way it's version 0.9.34 that I'm trying to upgrade to. If that makes a difference at all...

Last edited by h8uthemost (2011-10-21 00:55:36)

That seemed to have did it, safetycopy! scrotwm -version now shows that 9.34 is installed.

I can't thank you enough for this.

Thanks safetycopy. That's a good tip and I'll try it out.

But back to this, it looks like I'm not on 9.34. When I Mod+Shift+V in scrotwm, 9.20 pops up on the scrotbar. This is what I get when I run sudo make install:

install -m 755 -d /usr/local/bin
install -m 755 -d /usr/local/lib
install -m 755 -d /usr/local/share/man/man1
install -m 755 scrotwm /usr/local/bin
install -m 755 libswmhack.so.0.0 /usr/local/lib
install -m 644 ../scrotwm.1 /usr/local/share/man/man1/scrotwm.1
install -m 644 ../scrotwm_es.1 /usr/local/share/man/man1/scrotwm_es.1
install -m 644 ../scrotwm_it.1 /usr/local/share/man/man1/scrotwm_it.1
install -m 644 ../scrotwm_pt.1 /usr/local/share/man/man1/scrotwm_pt.1
install -m 644 ../scrotwm_ru.1 /usr/local/share/man/man1/scrotwm_ru.1

Since there's no errors I figured everything installed ok. And when I do scrotwm -version in Terminal I get this:

Welcome to scrotwm V0.9.34 cvs tag: $scrotwm: scrotwm.c,v 1.356 2011/08/13 20:26:02 marco Exp $

So I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong here. Isn't scrotwm -version telling me I'm on 0.9.34? I've rebooted my computer too, but the version is showing 9.20 in the scrotbar,

Ok, I'll wait for help from one of them.

I did however --purge removed scrotwm. And then I tried to install scrotwm 9.34 from the method above(make then sudo make install), and when I then go into Synaptics it shows that scrotwm isn't installed. And there's not an entry for it in gdm either. So I guess it didn't install.

For one when one of the other members pop in, this is what Terminal shows when I run make for 9.34:

ln -sf ../scrotwm.c
gcc -Wall -ggdb -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -DSWM_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/libswmhack.so.0.0\"   -c -o scrotwm.o scrotwm.c
scrotwm.c: In function ‘send_to_ws’:
scrotwm.c:3061: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘snprintf’ differ in signedness
/usr/include/stdio.h:363: note: expected ‘char * __restrict__’ but argument is of type ‘unsigned char *’
scrotwm.c: In function ‘uniconify’:
scrotwm.c:3176: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
scrotwm.c: In function ‘search_do_resp’:
scrotwm.c:3218: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
scrotwm.c: In function ‘window_get_pid’:
scrotwm.c:4991: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘strtonum’ differ in signedness
./util.h:15: note: expected ‘const char *’ but argument is of type ‘unsigned char *’
scrotwm.c: In function ‘manage_window’:
scrotwm.c:5085: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘strtonum’ differ in signedness
./util.h:15: note: expected ‘const char *’ but argument is of type ‘unsigned char *’
scrotwm.c:5126: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘snprintf’ differ in signedness
/usr/include/stdio.h:363: note: expected ‘char * __restrict__’ but argument is of type ‘unsigned char *’
gcc -Wall -ggdb -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -DSWM_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/libswmhack.so.0.0\"   -c -o linux.o linux.c
gcc  -o scrotwm scrotwm.o linux.o -lX11 -lXrandr -lXtst
ln -sf ../lib/swm_hack.c
gcc -Wall -ggdb -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -DSWM_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/libswmhack.so.0.0\" -c -fpic -DPIC swm_hack.c -o swm_hack.so
swm_hack.c: In function ‘set_property’:
swm_hack.c:111: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 7 of ‘xcp’ differ in signedness
swm_hack.c:111: note: expected ‘unsigned char *’ but argument is of type ‘char *’
gcc -shared -fpic -o libswmhack.so.0.0 swm_hack.so -lX11 -lXrandr -lXtst

And then sudo make install gives me the output in my above post.

Anyways, thanks for your help safetycopy.

Sorry guys, just woke up. I'm also a tad groggy so excuse any typos....

@safetycopy
Thanks for helping out, mate.
Your suggestion to install libxtst-dev was the right one.

@h8slobthemost
Aah, okay. So you installed the old version via apt and the new version from source, and it still starts up the old version, right?
Personally, I install all my versions of ScrotWM from source these days. I didn't have your problem when I installed from source after installing the old version via apt either.... BUT ... I can sorta figure out how to solve it (hopefully)

1. First backup your ~/.scrotwm.conf as a precaution.

* next step is required if you start scrotwm from /usr/share/xsessions/Scrotwm.desktop (for GDM). If you start ScrotWM via xinitrc (startx) then skip to step 3...

2. Make a backup of your /usr/share/xsessions/Scrotwm.desktop, since it contains the path to the script you use to start Scrotwm.

3, Quit ScrotWM (Mod+Shift+Q) or whatever WM you're on right now. If you exit GDM, then press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to bring you to a TTY. From there, purge the old version of scrotwm:

sudo apt-get purge scrotwm

4. Now cd into the ScrotWM 0.9.34 snapshot folder you extracted earlier and then cd into the /linux folder and run "make" and "sudo make install"  (actually you probably don't have to run make if it's the same folder you installed from earlier) to install the source again.

*next step required if you needed to perform step 2 earlier. Skip to 6 if not needed....

5. Either from the same TTY or in another WM, go to /usr/share/xsessions/ and put back the Scrotwm.desktop file you backed up earlier.

6. Check if your old ~/.scrotwm.conf is still in your home folder. If it got deleted in the purge, then just put back the one you backed up earlier.

7. Check inside your pants for your scrotum (it's a required dependency). If you're a chick, tough luck.

8. Start scrotwm and check the version (in the bar). Also, check the man page (man scrotwm) and see if there's stuff related to "layout" and "EWMH". If it's there, then you have the new man pages installed at least. Edit1: Also check my other post #14 below

9. Report back here.

Edit2:
Regarding the use of checkinstall: It's been hit and miss for me, depending on snapshot. I never bothered to investigate, but I assumed it had something to do with us Linux users needing to run make from inside the /linux folder of the source.

Edit3:
Sorry, I was probably typing this post as you were typing your last one. Regarding your make output, there's no error at the end so it seems to be fine.

Last edited by gutterslob (2011-10-21 03:26:08)

Thats genious

Last edited by psyco430404 (2011-10-21 02:33:56)

I think that is a PATH issue - installing from source installed scrotwm to /usr/local/bin, but installing from from the repos with apt installs into /usr/bin. Once you purge the version from the repos you should er ok, but you might want to have your start up script in /usr/share/xsessions points to the version in /usr/local/bin.

Thanks for all the help guys.

I already --purged scrotwm earlier and deleted my scrot.conf from my home directory(so I have no scrotwm installed on my machine). I should now just start on Step 4?

Last edited by h8uthemost (2011-10-21 04:04:53)

Well I followed the steps above, and when I go to log into scrotwm I get this error:

Xsession: unable to launch "/usr/bin/scrotwm" X session --- "/usr/bin/scrotwm" not found; falling back to default session

What a pain this is... I personally think 0.9.34 never installed properly.

EDIT: Nevermind, I finally got it! I chaged the Exec= part in my Scrotwm.desktop from usr/bin to usr/local/bin, and now Scrotwm started up normally. And when I hit Mod+Shift+V the bar now shows 9.34.

Phewww...that surely was a hassle. A huge thanks goes to each and every one of you that lent a hand. But a special thanks to gutterslob.

Last edited by h8uthemost (2011-10-21 05:03:16)

Aah, so in the end it was just a simple path issue as PackRat said. Apologies for overlooking the fact that you had "Exec = /path/to/scrotwmexecutable" in your .desktop file (most of us don't use GDM). I figured your Exec line would pe tehpath to your startup script.

Slightly unrelated (but kinda relevant), I now realize why I had troubles installing newer versions on top of the apt installed version now; seems I totally forgot that I symlinked the scrotwm executable directly to a script, and I had overlooked changing the paths in that one.

Do this in terminal to see what's in your PATH

echo $PATH

As long as /usr/local/bin should be listed, you should be able to install from source and have the newer version start if you "exec scrotwm", even if you did install the older version via apt prior to that. New version won't show in Synaptic, though. Not quite sure on the man pages, though.

Oh, to add something to yor PATH, do;

PATH=$PATH:/blah/blah/blah

Yss, I mentioned that in the "Getting Started with ScrotWM" thread. It's just that I figured you still had your xsession pointed to the script you used to start 0.9.20 and totally forgot to ask you what path you have in it.

Not quite sure here, since I don't use nitrogen or a separate clipboard manager. I think the Autorun feature is just limited to launching apps in specific workspaces on startup and doesn't really control where you place apps launched via keybindings or dmenu, though I'm not 100% certain. I don't really play with many of the new features like Autorun or Layouts, tbh.

Last edited by gutterslob (2011-10-21 14:19:15)