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Booted Win7 to see how it did idling: 1.2GB and to compare: Ubuntu: 45-50MB...

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^ Woh woh, Win 7 at idle? Damn!

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Mines fairly high. This is everything thats in my .xinitrc basically lol

Running:
transmission -m
thunar --daemon
urxvtd
twmnd
xcompmgr
conky > dzen2
nm-applet
x2 urxvt
My own mpd script and a gmail perl script

http://ompldr.org/tYjJ0dA

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I must confess i'm not looking as deep as with linux to trim it down to a minimum...

But still, "bloated" is an adjective of choice...

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El_Belgicano wrote:

Ubuntu: 45-50MB...

Scrot and details please. I'm curious on how you got Ubuntu so low. Last time I did a mini install of Ubuntu (maybe 3 versions ago) it already took up close to 40mb without X.

Last edited by gutterslob (2011-11-01 14:30:20)

Point & Squirt

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Scrot of htop through ssh: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27910488/htop.jpeg, notice vlc atm, i'll post another scrot when the video is done playing...

I actually started with a full gnome install, through (lot of) time I removed a lot of "bloat", the latest removals were: consolekit-daemon, policykit and hal...

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Voilà, vlc is stopped, rebooted and...
scrot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27910488/scrot.jpeg
htop: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27910488/htop2.jpeg

~48MB

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^ Nice!!

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El_Belgicano wrote:

Voilà, vlc is stopped, rebooted and...
scrot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27910488/scrot.jpeg
htop: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27910488/htop2.jpeg

~48MB

Impressive!! I've never been able to get Ubuntu below the 50mb mark running X. Heck, I don't think I've ever gotten my Arch installs to boot to X below 50MB either, though that was on the netbook that demands proprietary wireless drivers, so it depends on the target system. Lowest I've seen was on a desktop (Pentium, Intel gfx, no wireless, no irqbalance, few daemons) with Testing/GRML, which booted to around 35mb running a tiling WM.

Btw, apologies for going a bit off-topic, but how well is that Wayland thingy working on Ubuntu?

Point & Squirt

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gutterslob wrote:

Btw, apologies for going a bit off-topic, but how well is that Wayland thingy working on Ubuntu?

It's not, it's pretty much an empty package for developers. The last time I checked, which was on 11.04, didn't bother to investigate in my day and a half with 11.10.

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http://ompldr.org/tYmJ4ag

This is #! with Sid+Aptosid sources, removed XFCE4 and general cleanup (bleachbit, no BUM manipulation on services), kernel 3.0.0-2-686-pae (which is surprisingly slimmer in RAM than the 3.1-aptosid kernel)

33.1MB - but the netbook only has 512, so it makes sense.

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^ Impressive.

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If I start lxtask on my minimal 32bit wheezy/cwm setup running the stock Debian kernel (currently at 3.0.0-1-686-pae), it shows 71MB of 1199MB used. Of that, lxtask itself is the biggest culprit, using 9.1MB with the rest being used (in alphabetical order) by cwm, dbus-daemon, dbus-launch, gvfsd, polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 (for easy partition mounting without fstab entries), unclutter (hides the cursor after a second), xbindkeys, xcompmgr (I lurvs me some shadows) and whatever hidden services are running. I start X via LightDM and wireless connectivity is provided at boot by wpa supplicant.

By comparison, my stable partition runs squeeze with stock kernel 2.6.32-5-686 and an Xfce 4.6 desktop with murrine rgba transparency, compiz/emerald, nautilus replacing thunar and an xfce4-panel with several applets, including nm-applet. For that session I start X via GDM. At boot, xftaskmanager shows 181MB of 1199MB used.

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^ Your Squeeze needs more than my old Squeeze Gnome even with Compiz. (130 MB)

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@ivanov, yup! It's partially Nautilus, which has that heavy daemon running all the time, and partially the panel applets. I run Talika, which is a Gnome applet, so I also have to run xfapplet-plugin. Then, because of a side effect of the transparency, I have to run the notification applet from gnome-applets (the xfce one won't appear), which means another instance of xfapplet-plugin again. There's the 50MB difference right there.

Damn, if I knew then what I know now, I would have done a Gnome squeeze setup from a netinstall!

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^ That is what I thought and what I did. With Debian you can build a perfect and small Gnome 2.

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Netbook, 1GB - running Arch with Openbox+tint2+cairo-compmgr: 53.0MB.

I'd managed 31.5MB at some point, but it's increased slightly after some updates and once I added the startup sound.

My laptop running #! manages about... 67MB/1GB, if I remember correctly... I don't feel like getting it out to check.

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My ol' HP Pavillion Slimline boots with 46.9MB/512MB RAM.

I like to pretend I actually know something

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A new test, on the same hardware I posted above some time ago, Scrotwm loads with 60 MB Ram of 1.9 GB on my legacy Intel machine, though with MPD loading on startup it increases to 80 MB, still impressive. Xfce loaded with 90 MB. Of course Scrotwm runs on top of Xfce, so could be maybe even less without the "bloat".

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On my old Toshiba Satellite Pro 4200 series w/ 320MB RAM it's 45MB
Openbox / nitrogen / tint2 / conky / xcompmgr / Networkmanager / Parcellite / thunar-daemon.

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I'm kinda impressed that booting my #! with a minimal kde build uses 232mb of 4gb and idle's at a steady 245mb.

I'm pretty sure that zombies really do exist...
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Try this : http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40477
its a Puppy, not #!, so I'm cheating /olle

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On initial boot my Thinkpad T43 is showing around 59MB of ram used out of 1GB. This is with xcompmgr enabled, a tweaked out conky, a wallpaper script, and a few other things running.

Last edited by XwarlokX (2011-12-31 21:50:56)

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I checked this a few days ago on my sid install of the November image. Here are some numbers

                    idle        iceweasel started      iceweasel+catfish      iceweasel,catfish,terminator
scrotwm     42.3M           95.4M                      108M                              119M
JWM            43.2M           95.3M                      106M                              117M
Openbox     50  M           87.2M                      98.5M                             110M

I thought it was interesting that Openbox uses more memory at idle (no apps loaded) but less to run iceweasel. The differences are probably insignificant, but interesting.