• From: Universe
  • Registered: 2011-12-03
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Topic: Probably slim xfce bug

Hi all,

i found that when i enable autologin at slim when
i rebooted an error appear "Xfce power manager HAL daemon is not running".
is not big deal i think cause everything else was working fine but when i tried
to shutdown or reboot my pc, my pc was not able to do so. i mean when i was
pressing shutdown, the pc was "freezed" to the "plz standby" message. ofc i
just abandoned the shutdown and do it manually. then after i restarted my pc
i remove the autologin option from the slim.conf to see if my pc will be back to normal and was!
then i enable autologin again to be sure that this bug is real and it is.

to be honest i cant be 100% sure that is this error was not produced by another
bad configuration in my pc in combination with slim or xfce settings but if anyone
can reproduce the bug or has any solution will be rly helpfull to post something.

also after some web research i found that this was an xfce bug that it supposed that
was fixed in 1-2 previous versions of the xfce power manager.

any help appreciated!

thanks smile

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  • From: inside Ed
  • Registered: 2011-07-25
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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

Another problem is with Slim. I wonder why anyone is even using it, especially if you got autologin enabled.

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

Slim doesn't seem to have gone down a storm in this new #! issue. I did have the impression it wasn't being developed much these days.

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  • Registered: 2010-09-02
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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

The Debian developer who is also the upstream maintainer appears to have lost interest in it.
Nothing has been changed in at least a year.
There have been bugs reported and no response from him.

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

I would trash it immediatley. Why bothering with something broken.

There is LightDM or startx.

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

I wonder why corenominal chose SLiM ?
GDM legacy is still available in Squeeze and there are better choices for Wheezy based distros i.e. Waldorf.
It is easy to make it look good but it is a dead end.

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  • From: Dusk Till Dawn
  • Registered: 2009-07-02
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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

^ 

apt-cache depends gdm
apt-cache depends slim

compare the output wink

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

compare the output wink

Holy Cow! I'm having this HAL problem as well, but ... Holy Cow!

  • Registered: 2010-06-30
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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

machinebacon wrote:

compare the output wink

How much of the output of 

apt-cache depends gdm

is required for other installed software though?

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  • From: Nagoya, Japan
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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

And does a load of extra installed packages matter all that much anyway, with modern multi-giga hard disks? Unless you're starting up a lot of daemons and services along with gdm.

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

^ a lot of us are using netbooks & older desktops...

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

^OK true, though even this 2004 IBM desktop's 80GB drive is huge compared with what a few packages would occupy.
Do netbooks have even smaller drives?

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

Many netbooks come with tiny 4GB SSDs.  These can of course be upgraded, and it seems using the SSD for / and a permanently-inserted SD card for /home is fairly common practice, but I know of several #! forumites who have been able to get by with just the wee little SSD.  (I foresaw the potential for trouble and went with a 32 GB SSD when I bought my Mini.)

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

Ah 4GB would be a case for trimming off every last bit of fluff.

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Re: Probably slim xfce bug

vlahonick wrote:

Hi all,

i found that when i enable autologin at slim when
i rebooted an error appear "Xfce power manager HAL daemon is not running".
is not big deal i think cause everything else was working fine but when i tried
to shutdown or reboot my pc, my pc was not able to do so. i mean when i was
pressing shutdown, the pc was "freezed" to the "plz standby" message. ofc i
just abandoned the shutdown and do it manually. then after i restarted my pc
i remove the autologin option from the slim.conf to see if my pc will be back to normal and was!
then i enable autologin again to be sure that this bug is real and it is.

to be honest i cant be 100% sure that is this error was not produced by another
bad configuration in my pc in combination with slim or xfce settings but if anyone
can reproduce the bug or has any solution will be rly helpfull to post something.

also after some web research i found that this was an xfce bug that it supposed that
was fixed in 1-2 previous versions of the xfce power manager.

any help appreciated!

thanks smile

I don't have auto-login, but I also get the HAL error message once I do log in. I haven't found it to actually cause any issue, but I don't like logging in and being greeted with errors :s

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  • From: Universe
  • Registered: 2011-12-03
  • Posts: 138

Re: Probably slim xfce bug

@Throne777

can u tell me which version of #! u are using or if u did
some bad config before the error appears? i assume
the error didnt appear exactly after the #! installation.

anyway as i mentioned too i didnt had any serious prob,
just that sometimes i coudlnt shutdown :S

it might not be even ur fault...u might installed some xfce
stuff that make slim buggy...rly dont know :S

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  • Registered: 2010-09-02
  • Posts: 347

Re: Probably slim xfce bug

How many of the increased dependencies are recommends and not really required for GDM to work ?
With some other packages in Debian the difference can be over 200 megabytes.
Debian's policy is to consider recommends as depends.

The consolekit developers broke compatibility with older versions of display managers and said it was up to the display manager developers to fix it, kind of hard if the developer has abandoned it.

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