Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

I have an Officejet 4500. It works extremely well for me in any distro and is a fairly affordable compared to other networked all-in-ones out there.

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

Its name and specs go into the box for the big drawing on Valentine's Day!  Seriously, thanks for the heads up on what appears to be a contender.  big_smile

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

EnochRoot wrote:

Or you could go with a HomePlug and stick your wired box somewhere out of the way - assuming you have a spare HomePlug somewhere of course - I bought a pair intending to use them for the PS3 in the living room but worked out it would happily connect to the wireless access point which is now left on all the time as my daughter on her laptop and wife on her iPad would riot otherwise. So am always looking for a use for mine lol.

I took some time this morning to read up on this product.  Even though it's interesting, and under better financial circumstance maybe even viable it's of no use to me now because of the price.

I'm going to make this purchase and I'm expecting to get five, maybe eight good years of usage out of this new device but don't intend to spend that much more again on a plug.  I'm not fussing -- I just can't justify spending an amount equal to or even half of a new printer when I'm so  severely limited by my piteous monthly social security checks. 

It was the the time period I grew up -- a nickel was a nickel then.  I mean, for fifty cents you could buy a McDonald's hamburger, small soda and small fries and have enough money left over for a copy of Newsweek magazine at the corner store.  The two or three cents change would get you a pack of gum.  Now, if I buy gum at all its a dollar and something and the corner store is no more.   wink

Last edited by dubois (2012-01-24 19:33:43)

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

dubois- Gum is $1.29   sad

I have seen specials on printer for as low as $50 this week.   Take heart on your search.

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

BoredOOMM wrote:

dubois- Gum is $1.29   sad
I have seen specials on printer for as low as $50 this week.   Take heart on your search.

That's how much I paid for mine, and that was almost a year ago. Mine is the Ethernet one though, not the wireless-N variety.

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

I can vouch for the HP photosmart wireless all-in-ones.  Mine prints beautifully, scans beautifully, and I can even email it when I'm out and about and it just prints it.

Very nice piece of kit.

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

^ Now that's impressive, and a nice review of its capabilities.

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

I can't say that I've ever had the desire to print any photos, so I can't vouch for the 4500 in that regard.

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

<meh>

I know what you mean although I used to have a black and white photographic darkroom back in the early 1970's.  It was great, stinky fun, especially the stop bath.  yikes

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

dubois wrote:

^ Now that's impressive, and a nice review of its capabilities.

It is great tbh, best printer I've owned.  You can scan direct to an SD card too, which is a useful feature, and the email print is something else; especially if you have a smart phone.

Take a photo on your phone, email it to your printer, hard copy is waiting for you when you get home.

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

Let me throw in a 'second' for the HP Officejet 4500 recommended by mynis01.  Works out-of-the-box with the installation of hplip package.  I'm using it with #! and Arch without a hitch both via USB connection and via wireless.  Also works without a hitch with an iPad using the PrintDirect app or through Apple's 'Pages' application - AND from my wife's Nook Tablet.  I've used for standard and photo printing with great results - I have not tried the scan functions yet...something for this weekend maybe.

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

^ If you do, would you be good enough to post back with your impressions?  I'd appreciate it.  [I use the word I'd as a generic term as there may be someone else out there sitting on the fence about which printer to buy]

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

@dubois

On the HP4500 -

Okay, I have tried scanning, and I'm very happy to report it works just fine - although I did have to resort to installing the hp-toolbox GUI tool.  I'm certain it is possible to scan from the command line - but - well - tongue

I already had hplip and its depends/requires installed - also sane and its family - so all I really needed was the hplip-gui, which automated the scanning process very well.

Here's what I did:

1.  Installed hplip-gui
2.  Started the GUI from terminal with the command hp-toolbox (added to menu later - can be run from autostart if you so desire)
3.  The GUI offers a "scan" menu entry
4.  Put the handiest colorful paper item I had on the scanner bed of the printer
5.  Walked back to my laptop (I was running wirelessly from a different room)
6.  Clicked "scan" - which opened the scanning dialogs
7.  Left all settings at default, gave the image a filename and directory destination
9.  Clicked "scan" on the dialog box
10.  Got the following image (screenshot below)

http://ompldr.org/tY2h0OQ

So, this worked very well.  As I posted earlier, the basic printing features including photo printing I already knew worked out well - so this was something I wanted to try anyway.  You can specify a number of different image filetypes - the one pictured is .png but I could have picked JPEG and a number of others as well.

For what it's worth, here are the main packages I have related to hplip and sane:

hplip
hplip-gui
pnm2ppa
libsane-hpaio
hplip-cups
hplip-data
libhpmud0
libltdl7
libijs-0.35
libsane
sane-utils
libsane-hpaio
libsane-extras
xsane
xsane-common

I hope this helps.  I hated to have to keep an old cowboy in suspense for so long. smile

Last edited by busprof (2012-01-28 02:33:54)

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

UPDATE -- I went to a nearby Office Max and looked at the printers we've talked about and also emailed my brother [younger but wiser] seeking his advice.  Purchase date is set for 1 March -- I'll update again on my choice before then.  smile

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

My brother has a HP4500 and that works very well, printing, scanning and copying. It worked out of the box with the hplip package in the repos (sid).

I own a HP 6500A (needed duplex printing) which also works perfectly, but it is outside your price range. Both were very easy to set up on Linux (and Windows for my brother).  I've used them both with usb and wireless. Be aware that the usb cable may not be included. I haven't tried out the fax, haven't got a use for it smile

The 4500 is going for $90 at Amazon at the moment.

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

I currently use a Brother MFC-640CW, my wife was in Wal-Mart and it was on the clearance shelf for about 75% off the original price.  It's worked great for printing and scanning under Ubuntu and #!  We purchased it about 3 or 4 years ago and it's been chugging away doing its thing, but, it has fax.  It uses the CMYK separate ink cartridges.  We've learned our lesson about using the "refilled" cartridges on our last printer so we just buy original Brother cartridges.  It has wireless built-in and works very good.

I would recommend you check out the clearance shelfs in the stores.  Too bad you weren't closer, I'm getting ready to replace this one with a new unit and I'd just give this one to you if the other party that I am going to give it to doesn't want it.

One thing I like about this Brother model is the linux support for drivers, printing and scanning.

It did a good enough job that we printed up our own marriage validation invitations using the FINE settings and I was really surprised at the results, very good.

WarChilde tested and approved.

PS:  final purchase prices was $50.  well worth the cost as much as we gotten out of it.

Last edited by WarChilde (2012-02-09 02:45:47)

Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

WarChilde wrote:

....I would recommend you check out the clearance shelfs in the stores.  Too bad you weren't closer, I'm getting ready to replace this one with a new unit and I'd just give this one to you if the other party that I am going to give it to doesn't want it....

And I say that's real fine of you.  I reckon the only thing and in retrospect it's a bigger issue than I first realized is that I really wont be using this for printing photos but making copies for a very small home and office setup and now I'm wondering if I've made the right choices.  I don't need a fax and could very well do without.  But what my brother had to say bears repeating.


UPDATE -- this is a copy and paste from my brother's email reply to my recent request for his opinion

dubois' little brother wrote:

The only printers I ever hear people like consistently are Epson, HP (sort of) and Canon.  I never hear about Brother, but they've been making business copiers forever so their printers are probably OK.  My 10+ year old Epson SP-2200 is supported just fine on Mac and MS, but apparently not on Linux.  Some of the ones that are listed are still fairly old, though, so Linux support for the lifetime of the printer should be OK if it's supported now. I doubt newer ones will last ten years, but who knows?  They're likely as not made by the same Taiwanese/Chinese/Singaporean subcontractor, anyway.  Out of curiosity, which Epson were people complaining about?

It looks like HP still uses multicolor ink cartridges, so when you run out of one color you have to replace them all.  The Brother uses separate cartridges for each color, so it should be cheaper to maintain.  You can't directly compare the number of prints you should get with multicolor and separate cartridges, but the Brother runs 5¢ per page for black, and the HP is 7.5¢ per page.  The first HP color cartridge you replace will more than make up the printer price difference, and you'll be throwing ink away to boot.  I'd go with the Brother for that alone.  And, yes, you'll find all kinds of uses for color printing that you wouldn't expect at first.  If you're not doing color-critical photo printing, you can use off-brand inks, too.

The slightly negative reviews of the Brother seem to be mostly people who thought they were getting the "W" version, so it looks good.

So this gives me something to think about for a day or two [default limit I've always given myself when making a decision of any kind] plus I get to look at more cool websites.  Will post again with my thoughts, etc., later, or reply to any comments made.  big_smile

Last edited by dubois (2012-02-09 14:36:30)

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

UPDATE -- Two days ago I ordered this  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002NK … mp;seller=  from amazon.  It'll be here on or about the tenth.

I know this isn't something we discussed, but after a couple months of looking at printers, saving monies, talking to friends on the forum and emailing my brother, what was available and what was within my price range had drastically changed.  The specs and reviews seemed good [but all reviews are taken with as many grains of salt as necessary -- what are they not telling you in their review]

Drivers and firmware updates, upgrades can be had here  http://support.lexmark.com/index?docLoc … cale=EN_US  and iirc it has a four or five-year warranty  http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=h … cale=EN_US  although I see no reason in purchasing it because my reasoning goes: if they offer it for sale, the product must be able to do what they claim in their extended warranty on its own, so why pay for something that you'd get for free, anyway.  Once it's here and I've had a chance to read all paperwork I'll make a decision though.  wink

After I get it unpacked, setup and hopefully operable without issues, I'll post back here.  I'll also post back here if things go horribly wrong.  hmm  It's a good place to keep my thoughts, and someone, someday may find it useful.  big_smile



EDIT -- changed link

Last edited by dubois (2012-05-08 16:31:50)

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Re: Help Me Buy My First Printer, Copier, Scanner, Please

^ Sounds like a plan dubya

Good luck!