• Registered: 2012-01-31
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Topic: #! installation size?

Wondering what the amount of hard drive space will be taken up by #! after a clean install of statler.
I don't have my CB machine working, or I would check myself.

But I'm thinking of just running an 128GB SSD as my only hard drive, so suddenly the size of the OS matters. I know windows takes about 40GB, OSX about 30GB. But I have a feeling #! is much lower tongue

I'm hoping its < 10GB. Because I have about 50GB of data I need (music, work related stuff, etc). That would give me 60GB full, 60GB to use for whatever.

Even if you dont't know what it is clean, what are you at now? (assuming you don't have a million apps tongue)

Thanks!

  • From: A kingdom in transition
  • Registered: 2011-06-24
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Re: #! installation size?

I am at 4.9G now.
Running #! in 10G is no problem at all.

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  • From: Houghton, MI
  • Registered: 2011-08-26
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Re: #! installation size?

Can't remember the exact amount of space that #! takes up with a fresh install, but it is tiny. I went kind of crazy with partitioning my laptop hard drive a while back and am currently running with a 12GB partition. No problems. I also have a persistent usb drive that is 8GB. Long story short, your partition should be big enough. Hope that helps.

  • Registered: 2012-01-31
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Re: #! installation size?

Great, thanks for the info smile

It's almost impossible to use Win7 with 128GB lol, since you end up with about 70 free after install, and I have 50GB of music etc that I want, leaving only 20GB to work with for apps haha.

  • From: inside Ed
  • Registered: 2011-07-25
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Re: #! installation size?

Linux apps are usually smaller in size, as they use shared libraries. You hardly ever need over 5 GB, unless you wanna install all the apps in the repos.

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  • Registered: 2012-01-29
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Re: #! installation size?

I've recently made a fresh install and gparted tells me 3.41gb used.

  • Registered: 2012-01-31
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Re: #! installation size?

great, thanks onoffski.

@el_koraco, yea thats true, but photoshop is not a linux app, so that's ~8GB I have no choice about tongue I have one windows-based game I play through wine which is about 6GB as well.

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Re: #! installation size?

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  • Registered: 2012-01-29
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Re: #! installation size?

But, apparent discrepancy -
   GParted - ext 4   size 36.84GiB   used 3.41GiB   unused 33.43
   linux ext swap    size 423MiB

from desktop - system info - disk usage   2.83GiB/36.3GiB

Dunno?  take your pick.

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Re: #! installation size?

To answer the original question, I think it was somewhere around 2.3 or 2.5GB (according to Gparted), just after the initial cb-welcome had finished, but without installing LO or any development packages.

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  • Registered: 2011-07-27
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Re: #! installation size?

Lol ... pretty much pointless posting cuz +1 what everybody else already said anyway. What they said about diskspace and Gimp too.  wink

New #! install, few hrs ago. The ... df cmd is telling me have already cashed in 32% of a 12gb partition, so basic de math tells us. I'm pushing somewhere around 4gbs on the root partition. I installed a buncha stuff though. LIbreOffice, java too, this, that ... blah. Spent a lil time trying a couple kernels ... Installed/uninstalled a few seeing what worked best. Didn't clean up yet either. So there is still lingering chuff hanging around. Orphaned packages n blahblahblah.


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Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue
  • Registered: 2009-01-07
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Re: #! installation size?

This old dinosaur has 12 GB and I rarely go over 70$.  And I loaded tons of stuffs.

I'm sure 10 GB is enough.  If fact, I say you can do with 5 GB if you wish.
Long ago, I had cruncheee on my 4 GB 701 eee and I was fine.

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Re: #! installation size?

Crap I feel old. Anyone else remember when a 1gig HDD was a god-like disk with room for more than you'd ever need?

Anyway... a new #! install is gonna run you about 3.5 gigs, as noted above. If space is at a premium you can free up quite a bit by removing all the bells and whistles you really don't don't need. For instance, and this is just my preference here, terminator, gnome-calculator, parcellite, nm-applet, geany (we got vi don't we?!) and any number of other little incidental things, you should be able to get down to a very usable 2.5-3 gig install with plenty of room for your own files. If you really want make it count you can always get rid of Xorg (all it's deps and apps), but unless your work is similar to mine you're likely to need it.

I'd be willing to bet you'll be pleasantly surprised to find that even with everything you favor your well under the 10gig line, and more than likely still below 5GB.

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Re: #! installation size?

^ You young pup - I remember when 20MB was considered massive, and the DS-HD 5 1/4" floppies first came out.

Only time I ever came close to running out of space with Statler on a 4GB root partition was when I tried to dist-upgrade the point release to Sid.  'Nuff said?

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  • From: Pittsburgh, PA
  • Registered: 2011-09-01
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Re: #! installation size?

onoffski wrote:

But, apparent discrepancy -
   GParted - ext 4   size 36.84GiB   used 3.41GiB   unused 33.43
   linux ext swap    size 423MiB

from desktop - system info - disk usage   2.83GiB/36.3GiB

Dunno?  take your pick.

When you set it up, you told it to reserve 5% for root. You can change this with tune2fs, though. I think it's tune2fs -M 0. Maybe. hmm I'm not sure any more.

  • Registered: 2012-01-29
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Re: #! installation size?

yeah, just went with the default install off the new "Statler"10 iso, then after the cb-welcome added updates and libre office.
Am far too green at this to do anything without a handhold tho.

  • From: inside Ed
  • Registered: 2011-07-25
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Re: #! installation size?

The five percent saved for any ext4 partition is saved for the journal. The journal is, to simplify, a series of metadata about all the files that you operate on. The ext4 filesystem, like any journaling filesystem, keeps this journal and incrementally deposits said metadata to the "visible" filesystem, thus preventing you from losing data in case of power outages or a similar sudden disaster. You want the journal, it will not hurt you.

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  • Registered: 2012-01-29
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Re: #! installation size?

So, would this thinking be right(ish)

#! is taking 2.83GiB sitting on the hd,
but as a sort of 'back up' between sessions when changes are made/held in ram
the extra reserved space is pulled into use,
thus the extra 423MiB
can Linux run without this?
jeez, hope I have'nt made myself look an ass in here!

  • From: inside Ed
  • Registered: 2011-07-25
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Re: #! installation size?

onoffski wrote:

#! is taking 2.83GiB sitting on the hd,
but as a sort of 'back up' between sessions when changes are made/held in ram

Not in RAM, the five percent reserved is used directly for disk operations. Stuff get written to and from the disk all the time, even if you don't see the effects of it in any obvious way. The journal, the 423 MB space you "don't see" is used for storing all the metadata about the changes made to the disk. Those changes are committed with some time distance. Picture it this way - if the disk was a bunch of hungry kids at a Christmas party, the journal would be the babysitter keeping them from bringing the neighborhood down with vomiting once they've eaten all the candy in the house in two minutes.

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