Topic: Check uzbl browser.
Check this out http://ubzl.org
I tried this and looks good. Maybe you'd like it too. 
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- toor58
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- iggykoopa
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trying it out now, it's pretty neat... will take a while to get used to the key bindings and get it setup how I want though.
edit: it's www.uzbl.org
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That explains it, I knew I'd seen before:
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … d-browser/
- klanger
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I maybe too stupid for uzbl - but how on earth you enter url address in this browser?
anyone has an understandable guide?
Ok, surf is some thing that I understand - it is based on uzbl BUT it has an url adress oprtion - ctrl+g
more about surf - http://surf.suckless.org/
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- iggykoopa
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you have to set up your keybindings in the config file...I'm still setting mine up as I've only played around with it once or twice. Once I get mine set up I can post what I have, it may be a while though. There are some example config files on the uzbl page though.
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iggykoopa wrote:
you have to set up your keybindings in the config file...I'm still setting mine up as I've only played around with it once or twice. Once I get mine set up I can post what I have, it may be a while though. There are some example config files on the uzbl page though.
Thanks... writing this post from surf (wow, it acts as a web browser 
)
uzbl seems like a kit car with no good guide book...
- Raffles10
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Hmmn...Uzbl ?
Why do people write software that just makes things more difficult ? As a web browser it's main selling point would seem to be that it's featureless...
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nah it's not featureless, it just seems more oriented to the anti-mouse/tiling wm crowd. It does seem to run pretty well, but I'm not sure if I have the time to really learn it right now with work and class. Some of the other benefits are flexibility, if you want your bookmarks in a file that you can easily edit it's easy to setup...If you want them on some sql database that everyone shares your good there too(probably a little trickier to setup though) I guess it's more for the people that love endlessly tweaking stuff, which would be me if I didn't have a family.
I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may.
- klanger
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iggykoopa wrote:
nah it's not featureless, it just seems more oriented to the anti-mouse/tiling wm crowd. It does seem to run pretty well, but I'm not sure if I have the time to really learn it right now with work and class. Some of the other benefits are flexibility, if you want your bookmarks in a file that you can easily edit it's easy to setup...If you want them on some sql database that everyone shares your good there too(probably a little trickier to setup though) I guess it's more for the people that love endlessly tweaking stuff, which would be me if I didn't have a family.
I did some copy&paste with some scripts and it seems that you can also fireup firefox from uzbl! Wow
but still I don't know how to open url adress
anyone knows where is surf conf file? surf is working very well - but I don't know how to close it
Last edited by klanger (2009-09-10 20:00:12)
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It's designed to be a modular component, not a stand-alone browser, though for some who want a very minimalist browser that'd be about as minimal as it gets.
But no, it's supposed to be complimented by add-ons for things like a URL bar, bookmarks features, etc. Instead of building all of that into the browser and having massive bloat (ala firefox), they've instead left it up to the user to decide what components they want installed, if any.
Great idea imo.
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Bloat isn't always a bad thing, it depends what it does. For bloat you could substitute the word functionality.
I've always believed that software should get the job done as simply and efficiently as possible, whatever that job may be. There seems to be a belief among some Linux users that the more complicated and difficult something is to use, the better it is. Not so.
The easier something is, the better it is. That should go for Linux too.
- iggykoopa
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It looks like they recommend using dmenu for a lot of the stuff....
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- klanger
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Interesting guide - http://tuxtraining.com/2009/09/05/uzbl- … #more-2161, yet I'm too weak in scripts to work with uzbl 
(have to learn a "little")
OT - this is why I like Arch and "the arch way" methods - it forces you to learn something you really don't need.
There are 1000 of browsers, but there is "one" that I don't know how to use, and it makes me crazy, so I start to google and read and learn. After a month or two my uzbl problem hopefully will be solved
iggy, have a look at surf, it is a nice browser (stable, fast - great for tiling wm)
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yes, the link posted above is very helpfull!
o <url adress eg. google.com> ENTER opens a web page - TADA
great, I'm so happy
and i allows to write text into boxes eg. login to crunchbanglinux.org forum (esc - cancels i)
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this is very important
cp -r /usr/share/uzbl/examples/config/uzbl ~/.config/
cp -r /usr/share/uzbl/examples/data/uzbl ~/.local/share/Last edited by klanger (2009-09-11 11:57:09)
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I'm trying out uzbl now. I'm still working on configuring it how I want to, but I'm liking it so far. I love how much screen space you get with just the status bar on the bottom.
Uzbl_tabbed.py seems like a really nice addition to uzbl, even though I haven't really configured it properly yet.
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Raffles10 wrote:
Bloat isn't always a bad thing, it depends what it does. For bloat you could substitute the word functionality.
I've always believed that software should get the job done as simply and efficiently as possible, whatever that job may be. There seems to be a belief among some Linux users that the more complicated and difficult something is to use, the better it is. Not so.
The easier something is, the better it is. That should go for Linux too.
Uzbl's not about complication and difficulty. It's about minimalism, modularity, and flexibility.
I reference their FAQ
What? No support for bookmarks/history/downloads/cookies/... ? Your project sucks!
We do not support management of those things, because we believe a browser should only do browsing. We are firm believers in the unix philosophy. You have to look at the bigger picture. In fact, we do support all these things. Take bookmarks as an example:
* we support keybinding and spawning external programs, so you can bind a key to spawn any script you want
* Your script receives properties such as the current url, window title etc.
* You can then call a tool such as zenity to prompt for any more information you may want to specify (tags,...)
* You have the freedom to store the bookmarks in whichever format you want. (plaintext, sqlite, any database, on a remote system, in version control, ...)
* To load a bookmark, you trigger another script which invokes a tool such as dmenu to let you pick a bookmark. Your script can send the command to load the url to uzbl very easily by using the socket or fifo interface.
* To manage your bookmarks, you can use whatever you want, depending on how you store them (simple text editor, database interface, ... )These ideas are something we want to consistently apply throughout the entire application. (Even more, throughout our entire desktop environment) In fact, we actually ship various sample scripts and some sample configs that make it easy for you to implement your workflow.
Does the world really need another browser?We did try a lot of browsers, and we do not suffer NIH. We believe that the approach taken by way too many browsers is wrong. We do not want browsers that try to do everything, instead we prefer a system where different applications work together, which gives plenty of advantages. We also like open source. We take a lot of things from other projects and we also try to contribute to other projects.
What? You call all of this user-friendly?
Yes. If you don't agree, don't use it
This browser is not for grandma, or even Windows-Power-User; but it's power is that it can be configured and extended to be appropriate for either of them. I like their philosophy and hope their project sticks to it and enjoys many diverse and innovative implementations There are plenty of other browsers out there for folks who want to browse the web with an SUV. If you're just looking for an engine and want to put the rest together yourself that's what uzbl's for.
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- klanger
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After a few days of testing uzbl, I think it is a great applications!
With some quite easy scripts you can make from uzbl a mini desktop environment (DE) which improves and speeds up work a lot.
Since most people now days work on a computer most of the time with their browsers, the ability to open up some apps directly form browser is a great idea. And you can fire up any app – openoffice, vlc, leafpad even games
All you need to add to your config file is (which shoud be in /home/username/.config/uzbl/config):
bind ff = sh 'nice firefox $6'
bind OO = sh 'nice soffice'
bind vlc = sh 'nice vlc'
for firefox, openoffice and vlc …
than in uzbl you just have to type ff to open firefox, OO – openoffice etc.
Isn't that great?!
Ideal for netbooks with any tiling window manager but should also be useful for openbox, gnome or kde.
It would be an interesting task to build an OS around uzbl (something like Google Chrome OS) + small window manager.
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I know that necroposting is BAD, but I love the idea behind this application. It's just fantastic, and I'm thinking of building a fvwm-style browser with it: bind a click to summon special menu, set up the keybindings and stuff. It already has adblock, greasemonkey and stylish, and it might be my default browser one day.
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You seems to be a uzbl specialist, so maybe you can answer me one thing.
Why to get it working I have to launch it from a terminal (and let it open) ? If I try to launch it with a launcher (ALT+F2 shortcut on ubuntu, I don't remember the name of the app) it appears and closes immediately (-tabbed version) or it opens but the key biddings don't work (-browser version).
If you have adblock working on it I am interested too.
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IMHO, What's needed in a new browser, is a separation between page management, and the pages themselves. Exactly as uzbl starts to do. The missing element is the page management, of course, so uzbl is only the base.
What I mean by this is that nearly all browsers seem to use tabs, or windows. In either case, you basically get some variation on a horizontal menu of the your open pages, or 'contexts'. I can envisage a 'desktop' of all your open pages, where you can drag and drop, search, sort, and so on. You could even suspend pages, but unlike just saving a bookmark, the browser would grab a local copy of the page, much like the firefox 'scrapbook' addon, and you would keep 'suspended' pages forever if you wanted, with the option to 'refresh' them when you open them again, or just use the saved version.
Anyway, I'm sure there are a million other better ideas, but the key is the separation of page rendering etc, and management of bookmarks, open pages, history, passwords, etc.
So uzbl is great for experimenting here.