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Re: The ultimate fvwm thread
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Sounds a lot like Openbox which isn't too complicated. Thanks PackRat.
More like Fluxbox since it has the taskbar and panels built in as Fvwm modules (no system tray though) - decide how you want the user interface to look and load the module through the ~/.fvwm/config file; just have to wrap your head around the syntax of the configuration files.
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Well it definitely takes time to learn. Some scripting/programming background or some experience with tweaking various dotfiles would help.
Main virue in my opinion is as you get more ore less comfortable with manual (not learned it by heart but just know where to look for what), you can make it do much like anything concerning window management given that you can translate your requirements to pseudocode. %) It's one of the most flexible WMs ever. I would use it even if it required 512 mb RAM for itself to run.
Take a look at my configuration (mentioned earlier in this thread), and I heard that Astrumi has nice configuration, so you can rip it out of livecd. Fvwmcrystal is... well, weird, I wouldn't use it myself.
// It's not like openbox by itself, but you can configure it to mimic openbox if you want to.
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The Debian maintainer hasn't really been responding to any request to build this for squeeze-sid so I went ahead and used Statler's cb-welcome toolchain with pbuilder and rolled a decent i386 deb. Also, I'm making the source package available so that any of yall are savvy can use it to simply roll an amd64 .deb. I like it to be there as well for transparency's sake. The source packages are signed with my gpg key but the binary is not since I use a personal secure APT repo locally.
i386 BINARY
[fvwm_2.6.3-1_i386.deb]
AMD64 BINARY
[fvwm_2.6.3-1_amd64.deb]
SOURCE PKG
[fvwm_2.6.3-1.dsc]
[fvwm_2.6.3.orig.tar.gz]
[fvwm_2.6.3-1.debian.tar.gz]
[fvwm_2.6.3-1_i386.changes]
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^ How could you be so cool 
I just installed it from source yesterday 
Thanks anyway
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^ ah snap.. if only I was a day sooner 
Well, it'll be on the ole dropboxer if you need it for a reinstall or something.
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@Thomas
I've been getting these (1) or other numbers in my titles since the 2.6.3 release. Where I use to only have the name. I assume this is part of the new TitleFormat implementation that was in the release notes but haven't gotten it quite figured out yet. Anyways figured you'd know right off the top of your head chief. THX.
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rstrcogburn wrote:
@Thomas
I've been getting these (1) or other numbers in my titles since the 2.6.3 release. Where I use to only have the name. I assume this is part of the new TitleFormat
Yes. Read this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm@fvwm.org/msg01900.html
I post a solution in there somewhere about reverting to the old behaviour using FvwmEvent.
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Thank you. That was very helpful as always, TA. 
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Here's the fvwm theme and rest of configs you were wanting.
FVWM Theme
========
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/twok/twok-fvwm.tar.gz
GTK/Conky/Tint2/bin scripts
=================
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/twok/twok.tar.gz
Some pointers on getting this to work...
You'll need to extract the first tarball to ~/.fvwm/themes. Then you'll need to edit .fvwm/environment_variables and change the theme to "twok" from "gray"
Then you'll need to extract the second tarball and put "twok" in .themes and select it from lxappearance. I'm using the statler default icon theme now as well as clean 7 which is both installed by default with statler.
On getting your fonts to work.. you'll need to make sure to have bitmap fonts enabled. This is done by editing .fonts-conf accordingly
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
<const>hintfull</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba" >
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">
<const>lcddefault</const>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- Accept bitmap fonts -->
<selectfont>
<acceptfont>
<pattern>
<patelt name="scalable"><bool>false</bool></patelt>
</pattern>
</acceptfont>
</selectfont>
</fontconfig>Then extract the artwiz fontset to .fonts and then do the following commands to get clean detected as well as your font database recached.
get clean linked up with your home directory
ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11 /home/[your user name]/.fontsrecache your fonts
fc-cache -fvas far as getting conky and tint2 loaded up plus a nitrogen wallpaper what i do is add the following to .fvwm/autostarted_applications
+ I Test (Init) Exec exec ~/.config/openbox/autostart.shI also comment out the cheatsheat line that's up above the #try nitrogen as wallpaper
Anyways hope that gets you on the right track.
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Re: The ultimate fvwm thread
Wow, this is very thorough. Thanks for taking the time to detail all of this, just trying to implement all of it should teach me a few things about fvwm.
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Here's an FVWM Starter's Kit theme for Statler 11/2011
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/statle … ken.tar.xz
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I'm working on my clock/notification area setup right now and kind of stumped with FvwmPager
maybe @packrat or @thomasadam has some input
basically what I want is a pager with a stippled grid
#12171d background/ #7b7b7b foreground
# A playground. Test your ideas here.
# It is read the last, so what's here
# would override all the options in the other
# files.
#
# On the other hand, if it makes any mess,
# just purge it.
# Make TitleFormat work like IndexedWindowName for one window
DestroyFunc CountWindow
AddToFunc CountWindow
+ I SetEnv WindowCount 0
+ I All ($[w.class], !Transient) PipeRead \
`echo SetEnv WindowCount $$$$(($$$$WindowCount + 1))`
+ I PipeRead `[ $WindowCount = 1 ] && echo \
"WindowStyle TitleFormat %n" || echo "Nop"`
+ I UnsetEnv WindowCount
DestroyModuleConfig FE-tweakttformat
*FE-tweakttformat: add_window CountWindow
AddToFunc StartFunction I Module FvwmEvent FE-tweakttformat
##############################################################
# Load any modules which should be started during
# fvwm initialization
#ModulePath /usr/lib/X11/fvwm:/usr/bin/X11
Module FvwmIconMan
# Make FvwmIconMan title-bar-less, sticky, and give it an icon
Style "Fvwm*" Icon toolbox.xpm,NoTitle,NoHandles,Sticky
Style "FvwmIconMan" HandleWidth 5, Handles, BorderWidth 5
##############################################################
##############################################################
#Definitions used by the modules
*FvwmIconMan: NumManagers 1
*FvwmIconMan: Resolution global
*FvwmIconMan: Background #12171d
*FvwmIconMan: Foreground #7b7b7b
*FvwmIconMan: Font "xft:clean"
*FvwmIconMan: ButtonGeometry 142x0
*FvwmIconMan: ManagerGeometry 1x0-0+98
*FvwmIconMan: BorderWidth 0
*FvwmIconMan: ReliefThickness 0
##
KillModule FvwmButtons FvwmTaskList
DestroyModuleConfig FvwmTaskList: *
#*FvwmTaskList: (Icon $[FVWM_USERDIR]/themes/$[fvwm_theme]/decorations/clock.xpm)
*FvwmTaskList: Back #12171d
*FvwmTaskList: Fore #12171d
*FvwmTaskList: 1x1
*FvwmTaskList: Frame 0
*FvwmTaskList: Padding 0
KillModule FvwmButtons FvwmClock
DestroyModuleConfig FvwmClock: *
*FvwmClock: (Swallow "xclock" "Exec exec xclock")
*FvwmClock: Colorset 10
*FvwmClock: Frame 0
KillModule FvwmButtons FvwmDay
DestroyModuleConfig FvwmDay: *
*FvwmDay: (Swallow "xday" "Exec exec xclock -name xday -digital -strftime %m.%d -face 'Droid Sans:size=13'")
*FvwmDay: Colorset 10
*FvwmDay: Frame 0
KillModule FvwmPager
DestroyModuleConfig FvwmPager
*FvwmPager: Back #12171d
*FvwmPager: Fore #7b7b7b
*FvwmPager: Hilight #7b7b7b
*FvwmPager: Geometry 71x96-71+0
*FvwmPager: Label 0
*FvwmPager: Font none
Module FvwmButtons FvwmTaskList -g 142x96-0+0
Module FvwmButtons FvwmClock -g 56x56-8+8
Module FvwmButtons FvwmDay -g 55x27-0+64
Module FvwmPager
Style FvwmTaskList !Title, !Handles, BorderWidth 1, !Icon, WindowListSkip, StaysOnBottom
Style FvwmClock !Title, !Handles, BorderWidth 0, !Icon, WindowListSkip
Style FvwmMonth !Title, !Handles, BorderWidth 1, !Icon, WindowListSkip
Style FvwmDay !Title, !Handles, BorderWidth 1, !Icon, WindowListSkip
Style FvwmPager !Title, !Handles, BorderWidth 1, !Icon, WindowListSkip
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You mean a stippled grid on the page so the active page has a pattern? Sounds like you want to use pixmap image(s).
From the man page for FvwmPager:
*FvwmPager: Pixmap pixmap
Use pixmap as background for the pager.
*FvwmPager: HilightPixmap pixmap
The active page will be highlighted by using this background pattern instead of the normal background. http://www.fvwm.org/documentation/manpa … mPager.php
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PackRat wrote:
You mean a stippled grid on the page so the active page has a pattern? Sounds like you want to use pixmap image(s).
Why? FvwmPager uses a stippled line separation by default.
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@packrat
Thank you, I might end up doing a custom design with the pixmaps. I was thinking a viewfinder look from a camera would be really kewl. Are you using it on any of your setups (pixmap pager)?
@thomasadam
That's what I thought too... I'll keep poking at it.
Thank you both for the quick responses. I'll let yall know when it's working.
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I tried it once, but I don't have the graphic art skills to really pull it off. The viewfinder look you're proposing does sound cool.
If you're going to use a pixmap in the pager, you may want to look at:
*FvwmPager: DeskTopScale number
If the geometry is not specified, then a desktop reduction factor is used to calculate the pager's size. Things in the pager window are shown at 1/number of the actual size. as well so that the pixmap and pager resolution match up.
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So i figured it out. I had 1 desktop that was 2 pages so I only had stipling in between the 2 pages that was barely noticeable. I busted em up into 2 desktops and 9 pages a piece. Voila. I still might end up going the pixmap route though. Since I don't really need that many pages. We'll see.
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(click on image for box-look.org link)
OK Sexus Dragonius hit the mainstream!
It's on Box-look/Deviantart now for all your amusement.
It includes a full FVWM setup/GTK/Xdefs/ and icons
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fvwm 2.6.4
++===++
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/debian … ian.tar.gz
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/debian … .6.4-1.dsc
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/debian … 86.changes
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/debian … 1_i386.deb
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17828753/debian … rig.tar.gz
enjoy boys! and girls! ... now to the hideout!
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I'm going to play with this this weekend! You got me perked up here!
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I've finally taken the plunge myself, using @rstrcogburn's sideways brown theme....still trying but will post screenshot in March sometime soonish! (I hope!) Man it's crazy in here.
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Okay, a question: how would I bind my media (volume raise/lower, mute) buttons in FVWM? I tried this:
Key XF86AudioRaiseVolume A "amixer sset Master playback 2dB+"etc. Any pointers? Or should I just bind F-keys with super to the actions?
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mahatman2 wrote:
Okay, a question: how would I bind my media (volume raise/lower, mute) buttons in FVWM? I tried this:
Key XF86AudioRaiseVolume A "amixer sset Master playback 2dB+"etc. Any pointers? Or should I just bind F-keys with super to the actions?
This works on my setup:
Key XF86AudioMute A A Exec exec amixer set Master toggle -q
Key XF86AudioRaiseVolume A A Exec exec amixer set Master 2+ -q
Key XF86AudioLowerVolume A A Exec exec amixer set Master 2- -qLast edited by PackRat (2012-03-07 21:04:32)
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