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Topic: Does #! have LTS releases ?

Hi all,

Just wondering since #! is based on Ubuntu whether #! also has LTS releases like Ubuntu, or does it only have the standard 6 mos. release / 18 mos. update support cycle ?

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Re: Does #! have LTS releases ?

Well there is CrunchBang 8.04 which is based on an LTS release. I don't think many people here use it though.

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Re: Does #! have LTS releases ?

On my work computer, I actually just switched from #! 8.04 to 9.04 last week. 8.04 was an excellent release, but with 9.10 about to go stable, I thought it was a safe time time to upgrade to 9.04. There are a lot of great new features in 9.04, so I am happy with the change so far. smile

But yes, #! 8.04 is based on the Ubuntu long-term-support release, so it should receive support and updates through April 2011. I am very much looking forward to #! 10.04 (the next LTS) eventually. wink

(edit) I should mention I'm not usually this conservative; on my "play" computer, I love to try new versions as soon as they're released.

Last edited by snowpine (2009-10-26 15:22:09)

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Re: Does #! have LTS releases ?

Can an Ubuntu distro truly be called "stable", considering the newest releases are always built on the latest Debian UNstable?  For example, the kernel used in Karmic won't be available in Squeeze until its release, and Squeeze is still considered a "testing" release.  (The current stable Debian is Lenny, which uses the same kernel as Hardy.)

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Re: Does #! have LTS releases ?

Ubuntu's LTS releases are synced with Debian testing not unstable:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS

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Re: Does #! have LTS releases ?

pvsage wrote:

Can an Ubuntu distro truly be called "stable", considering the newest releases are always built on the latest Debian UNstable?  For example, the kernel used in Karmic won't be available in Squeeze until its release, and Squeeze is still considered a "testing" release.  (The current stable Debian is Lenny, which uses the same kernel as Hardy.)

Stable (in this context) just means the packages and features are frozen. It has nothing to do with how reliable your system will be or whether it will crash. A well designed "unstable" distro might actually be more reliable than a buggy "stable" distro. Debian stable is called stable because it is a finished product; it will not receive any major upgrades (only incremental security patches and bug fixes). All Ubuntu releases can be called stable by this definition of the word.

The Ubuntu Long Term Support releases are not really any different than the regular releases, except that they receive support for twice as long. Therefore towards the end of their support cycle, they become super-stable because 3 years is a long time to fix bugs.

As far as I know, Corenomial did not  specifically conceive of CrunchBang 8.04 as a "long term support" release; it just happened that the timing coincided with the Ubuntu LTS.

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Re: Does #! have LTS releases ?

I believe that #! is based on Ubuntu , so the 10.04 release of #! should be considered LTS , right? (or am i way off??)

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Re: Does #! have LTS releases ?

Blitz wrote:

I believe that #! is based on Ubuntu , so the 10.04 release of #! should be considered LTS , right? (or am i way off??)

to an extent yes, but not to the same extent as ubuntu proper, there arent the resources to check for bugs etc so yes (the ubuntu repos) will be updated for longer, but you wont necessarily get the increased reliability you might expect from a LTS.

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