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IgorP wrote:

Could I ask you why (rolling-release) ? Which are your reasons ?

I chose a stable (non-rolling-release) distro for my netbook because:

1. Slow internet connection
2. Small SSD drive (8gb)
3. Easier to administer because there are never any major updates smile

ps automatic transmission is more popular here in the US; I only recently learned how to drive manual

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snowpine,

thanks for answers smile

Regards!

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IgorP wrote:

Could I ask you why (rolling-release) ? Which are your reasons ?

From my point of view (4GB ssd /root + 16 /home) Arch after a while uses much more ssd space than not "rolling" distro, and some times update&upgrade is not clear and you need to repair your system (downgrade some apps etc).

I know it is not the main topic here, but comparing Arch& FreeBSD speed, FBSD is the winner

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klanger,

I've heard the guy who work from Microsoft now about his days with Linux. He mentioned FreeBSD as the distro of choice and says; When I'm on Linux, then I use 100% Linux which is FreeBSD. OK, this is his preference and he says that he choose this for security reasons (minimum viruses written for FreeBSD) and runs on servers.

Yes, I thinked about FreeBSD but I didn't pay too much attention. This about speed is ineresting.
I've tried Puppy (latest) and seem that is somekind slower than previous !?! (JMSO=Just My Subjective Opinion).

After all sneaking and exploring others distro, I always come back in good company of CrunchBang! smile

Regards!

Last edited by IgorP (2010-01-24 08:57:35)

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IgorP wrote:

After all sneaking and exploring others distro, I always come back in good company of CrunchBang! smile

Regards!

Because #! is good!

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Followed step by step http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archiso to make a Live CD

Here's the console output as it creates the image:

mkarchiso : Configuration Settings
        working directory:   work
               image name:   none
====> Creating working directory: work
====> Installing packages to 'work/root-image/'
Cleaning up what we can
cp -r "work"/root-image/boot "work"/iso/
cp -r boot-files/* "work"/iso/boot/
mkdir -p "work"/iso/boot
mkinitcpio -c ./mkinitcpio.conf -b "work"/root-image -k 2.6.32-ARCH -g "work"/iso/boot/my-arch.img
:: Begin build
:: Parsing hook [base]
:: Parsing hook [archiso-early]
:: Parsing hook [udev]
:: Parsing hook [archiso]
:: Parsing hook [pata]
:: Parsing hook [scsi]
:: Parsing hook [sata]
:: Parsing hook [usb]
:: Parsing hook [fw]
:: Parsing hook [filesystems]
:: Parsing hook [usbinput]
:: Generating module dependencies
:: Generating image 'work/iso/boot/my-arch.img'...SUCCESS
mkdir -p "work"/overlay/etc/pacman.d
cp -r overlay "work"/
wget -O "work"/overlay/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist http://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/i686/all/
--2010-01-23 21:11:07--  http://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/i686/all/
Resolving www.archlinux.org... 66.211.214.131
Connecting to www.archlinux.org|66.211.214.131|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 12016 (12K) [text/plain]
Saving to: “work/overlay/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist”

100%[======================================>] 12,016      --.-K/s   in 0.1s    

2010-01-23 21:11:08 (120 KB/s) - “work/overlay/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist” saved [12016/12016]

sed -i "s/#Server/Server/g" "work"/overlay/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
sed "s|@ARCH@|i686|g" isomounts > "work"/isomounts
mkdir -p work/iso/boot/isolinux
cp work/root-image/usr/lib/syslinux/*.c32 work/iso/boot/isolinux/
cp work/root-image/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin work/iso/boot/isolinux/
mkarchiso -p syslinux iso "work" ""/home/will/my-arch"/my-arch-1.00-i686".iso
mkarchiso : Configuration Settings
        working directory:   work
               image name:   /home/will/my-arch/my-arch-1.00-i686.iso
====> Generating SquashFS image for 'work/root-image'
Creating SquashFS image. This may take some time...
Image creation done in 1.87 minutes.
====> Generating SquashFS image for 'work/overlay'
Creating SquashFS image. This may take some time...
Image creation done in 0.00 minutes.
====> Making bootable image
Creating ISO image...
[root@sasoria my-arch]#

And when I boot the cd I get:

Loading /boot/vmlinuz26........................................................
could not find ramdisk image: /boot/my-arch.img

I must have done something wrong somehow. Wish there was another tutorial to use archiso
and I feel like changing the topic to "to those who managed to make a Arch Linux LIVE CD" lol lol
Actually I'm going to make another topic smile

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-25 12:49:17)

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Maybe try to contact (&ask for help) those developers from links posted above - their Live-CDs usually are booting correctly... they should guide you to a proper path.

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lol yeah starting with Godane for now

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got an answer:

The official archiso scripts are completely different from my build scripts. You get my source below:
http://github.com/godane/archiso-live
Read the README file to learn how it works.

Hope this helps.

Time to do some more reading smile

I like the intro lol

Archiso-Live For Dummies Like Me and You
-------------------------------------


-What the hell is Archiso-Live?

Archiso-Live is a small set of bash scripts that is capable of building fully
functional ArchLinux-based liveCDs
. It is a very generic tool, so it
could potentially be used to generate anything from rescue systems,
to install disks, to special interest liveCD systems, and who knows what
else. Simply put, if it involves Arch on a shiny coaster, it can do it.

-What is the different between Archiso and Archiso-Live?

Archiso was the offical livecd build scripts but there not as modular has
Archiso-Live. With Archiso you had to list the squashfs images in a text file
at build for them to be added into the livecd. I also didn't like the idea of
a 'dump' livecd where you can't fix anything so easly.

EDIT: making a live CD is pretty long it's not as easy as it seems when we think about it (depending on the distribution) lol, Wish I had more free time in my hands but with school it's not easy. I see the live CD as a long term project but meanwhile I could upload a virtual HD for VirtualBox with ArchBang on it for those who would like to mess with it already

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-25 12:50:44)

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Things are getting better I went from this fugly image:
http://sites.google.com/site/zazazpsite/_/rsrc/1264383028534/Home/2010-01-24-202704_814x609_scrot.png
to this:
http://sites.google.com/site/zazazpsite/_/rsrc/1264436998297/Home/abitbetter.png
big_smile

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wow cool

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klanger wrote:

wow cool

+1 smile

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MY FIRST APPLICATION RUNNING ON THE LIVE CD YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY with network up!
big_smile:D:D
http://sites.google.com/site/zazazpsite/_/rsrc/1264466343613/Home/2010-01-25-193601_752x575_scrot.png
ArchBang LIVE CD is coming big_smile

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working on packages selection to not go over 700MB and settings and it should be good cool
http://sites.google.com/site/zazazpsite/_/rsrc/1264474277388/Home/excitement.png

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-26 02:53:45)

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thats some mighty fine work willxtreme!

It's hard to find something if you don't know what you're looking for.
I have a blog, it's mostly about conky and lua stuff... go here.

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i think i's time i properly prepped my new pendrive to receive a new os. smile

educate yourself so you may educate others.DeNoob&UnBloat PCs!
the only free webhosting i use.
say "NO!" to a chemical lobotomy in your food
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EDIT: check the first post for ArchBang's download link big_smile

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-27 11:27:44)

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I'm downloading it!!! THANKS!!!!

p.s. If I want to install it I have to follow the directions in the links some posts above regarding installing from live cd?

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WOW... good transfer!

Downloading...

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slapfish wrote:

p.s. If I want to install it I have to follow the directions in the links some posts above regarding installing from live cd?

I haven't tried it personally yet but the next step would be to have an installer lol

EDIT: someone asked me about persistent USB install and I've found an interesting tutorial for Ubuntu Live CD that can be adapted to any distros.

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-26 16:25:14)

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It is not booting via unetbootin-live-USB on eeepc 900 (same as other arch-live-CDs).

sad

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hmm the last words of Archiso tutorial are

You will receive a .iso, ready for burning onto a CD/DVD or for dd'ing onto a USB key:

dd if=my-image.iso of=/dev/some-usb-drive bs=8M

but etc/fstab is currently

aufs                   /             aufs      noauto              0      0
none                   /dev/pts      devpts    defaults            0      0
none                   /dev/shm      tmpfs     defaults            0      0
/dev/cdrom             /bootcd       iso9660   ro,user,noauto      0      0

fdisk -l lists all partition on your system and we'd have to replace the last entry in fstab for the one corresponding to your USB drive but this can vary from a computer to another (/dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sda) and this would be a "custom solution".

A global solution would be to use the label approach

The iso needs to have a particular label let's say archbang and if you try to boot from usb, your pen drive would need to have the same label

LABEL=archbang             /bootcd       ....

I'll have to test that solution smile

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-26 17:34:14)

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willxtreme,

that looks very nice smile

Regards!

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klanger wrote:

It is not booting via unetbootin-live-USB on eeepc 900 (same as other arch-live-CDs).

sad

Yay I'm writting this message from the LIVE CD on my pen drive
I didn't used unetbootin
dd is the way to go big_smile
as root in terminal all I did was:

dd if=ArchBang_100.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M

as suggested in the wiki and it works

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-27 02:11:08)

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so when can we expect the ArchBang forums to be up and running? smile

It's hard to find something if you don't know what you're looking for.
I have a blog, it's mostly about conky and lua stuff... go here.