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Topic: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Just wondering if people have had success with "suspend" and "hibernate" on laptops using the Statler alpha's.

I gave up on a working suspend option for my laptop around the Ubuntu 8.10 time, and then discovered
(quite happily) by accident recently that with #! 9.04, suspend works very well 95% of the time. It's nice to
be able to NOT have to shut the Dell down completely everytime I move locations with it, and I'm hoping
that this functionality is still present with the new releases.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Suspend works fine on my Dell Mini 9. Haven't tried hibernate.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

no problems with suspend on my AAO-D250, haven't tried hibernate either.

I am wondering if it's possible/good idea to set the defaults for xfce-power-manager to be "suspend when lid closed", as that's the behaviour most people will be expecting.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Hibernate & Resume wasn't working with Statler on my Acer Notebook out-of-the-box.

First I swapped xfce4-power-manager with gnome-power-manager, because brightness control wasn't working. Set the power-settings to "hibernate when lid closed".

After that I had to configure grub2:
In /etc/default/grub:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=/dev/sda9"

(/dev/sda9 is my swap partition)

Then:

update-grub

Machine now resumes properly with wireless working! smile

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

suspend works very nicely but like the others i haven't tried hibernate because at that point i might as well restart i feel. on the sl410 sleep works with laptop lid closing but not on sleep button.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Suspend works fine on Statler with my eeePC 1005HA. I've never tried Hibernate, though, I never leave that many applications open.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Suspend is working just fine on my Thinkpad X200s. As Monkeybritt said, hibernate is useless for most people these days, as it's quicker just to shutdown. Hibernate seems to be a hangover from the days of 5-minutes Windows boots!

Edit: A slight update - since writing this, I've twice seen problems on resume. The screen is almost completely black, and only the whitest bits are visible. It requires restarting X to sort this out.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

I don't have much success with suspend and hibernate on my Compaq Presario A900.
Suspend sometimes works, after sleep my network connection is disabled (many times) or i get a blank screen (sometimes). And it takes quite some time to wake up anyway.
Hibernate isn't working at all.... it does a restart. I don't care much about hibernate, the system boots rather fast (as olembe said).

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Thinkpad T42: Suspend and Hibernate result in no audio and sometimes no network when it comes back on.

  • From: St. Paul, MN
  • Registered: 2010-04-02
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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Suspend works on my Compact Presario C762NR. I do not use hibernate. I tested it anyways. It did not work.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Hibernate=not so important. Suspend=really really nice to have big_smile

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

if I run pm-suspend it suspends but on resume I'm losing the connection to internet and most important it doesn't autoconnect and I also sometimes need to reboot...

I tried the grub "resume to swap" but didn't change anything.

I don't* use suspend often, but it's nice to have...

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Last edited by slapfish (2010-04-28 15:02:46)

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

olembe wrote:

As Monkeybritt said, hibernate is useless for most people these days, as it's quicker just to shutdown. Hibernate seems to be a hangover from the days of 5-minutes Windows boots!

I use hibernate all the time. I have a bunch of programs open at any one time, and a bunch of tabs open, and hibernate works more smoothly than restarting... even though going into hibernation takes a very long time in 8.10 (which I'm using).

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

UPower?

I don't know what packages or scripts Statler is using for power management, but I just saw this, from Marty Jack on the LXDE mailing list:

With the release of UPower 0.9.2 today, I decided that it was safe to start depending on it for Suspend and Hibernate.  The parts that we use didn't change between 0.9.1 and 0.9.2.  This is a slight modification of the code that used DeviceKit/Power, with just the well-known service name changed and a little tweak to swallow the timeout error that happens when you suspend.  The DeviceKit/Power code is no longer there.  The HAL code is there but only as a fallback if the ConsoleKit and UPower paths aren't usable.

I have added an area at the bottom where I display the error, if we get one, so the user will have a clue why their button press didn't work.

I've never had a Linux distro where both suspend and hibernate worked. However it's managed, it would be nice, and help #! to be a bit more usable and energy efficient.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

taintedsushi wrote:

Thinkpad T42: Suspend and Hibernate result in no audio and sometimes no network when it comes back on.

Hello taintedsushi

I have a T42 and I'm lucky in being able to use suspend reliably. Wifi restarts but I have to reenter the wep password. Audio works ok on unsuspending as well.

Hibernate isn't working. I get the dreaded code 16 not thawing that features in a lot of the hibernate bugs I've been reading. This is Debian/Ubuntu business rather than #! I think.

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Do any of you with suspend/hibernate problems regularly use SD cards?  There seems to be a strong tendency for newer laptops to hang on suspend and hibernate with a card in the media slot.  My Mini goes to a blank screen with a flashing cursor on suspend if I have an SD card in the slot, but it goes down properly if I pop out the card first.  (EDIT:  Other netbook users have reported the same behavior.)

Last edited by pvsage (2010-04-27 21:12:13)

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Another strange problem occured after the latest updates (yesterday or the day before)...
I wanted to give hibernate another try... screen goes blank, and i get a message that there is no swap area...
I looked in 'top': no swap....
I can use swapon to activate swap. But before swap was activated after startup.
During boot i get the message: Activating swap DONE
Did more people experience this?

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Well, I don't experiene any of your problems, I got another one. I only use suspend, so no hibernating, but this a couple of times a day. I do it with the hotkey (Fn+F1). When I wake up my Netbook (Asus Eee 1000h), It shows everything just fine, after a very short time. But sometimes, it goes back to suspend after a couple of seconds. When I wake my PC the second time, it stays awake, but this is very annoying.
Any Ideas, where this might come from?

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Just loaded up Statler onto my x31 thinkpad.

First time suspending impressions:
Much quicker cycle than with 9.04.
Issues: screen is incredibly dark after resuming from suspend. Cannot be brought up with normal brightness keys. Requires a log-out cycle to regain brightness (or simply restarting xorg would probably work.)

Happy to hear if anyone has any thoughts on the cause of such darkness.

(Will update as more experience comes in.)

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

I experience the opposite on my Compaq CQ-615DX.  The screen is very dark with a fresh start on battery, but brightens up if I suspend/resume!

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

too bad. if I had hibernation or suspension working, #! would be my main or even single OS. I have to return to ubuntu, as it is sad

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

I just did some suspend/hibernate tests...

From the xfce4-power-manager icon in tint2....
Suspend now seems to work, except after wake up i get a notification 'no battery present'...
Hibernate is not working... it takes long to go into hibernation, but does a normal reboot on wakeup.

pm-suspend from terminal results in black screen on wakeup
(the only way i know to reboot then is to press the power button for a long time)

pm-hibernate also results in a normal reboot on wakeup


It's not very important to me a as it takes less than a minute to boot my laptop.
Mostly fun to solve this...

Tuna.

Update: i installed hibernate and acpi-support... 
Hibernate works now, but is very slow
Sleep from xfce4-power-manager works... pm-suspend results in black screen...

Last edited by Tunafish (2010-05-25 14:20:37)

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

I have an ASUS EeePC 701 4GB and use the suspend feature often and without issue; I have not tried hibernate but then don't have sufficient SWAP, either.  hmm

pvsage wrote:

Do any of you with suspend/hibernate problems regularly use SD cards?  There seems to be a strong tendency for newer laptops to hang on suspend and hibernate with a card in the media slot....

Right now I'm typing this from a 4GB PNY Attache USB running Debian Sid and there's a 1GB mini SD in the built-in card reader [to back-up the /home/user file] .  I've not experienced these hang ups although you mention them on newer laptops.  Hope you soon find a solution.  smile

EDIT - terminology  error ...

Last edited by winotree (2010-05-25 15:56:17)

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Suspend/Hibernate, how to restore to  defaults?
Desktop

While trying the above tricks to get my desktop to suspend to RAM I broke its ability to hibernate to disk.

When it now hibernates to disk and powers down completely it behaves as if it was simply shut down and the wireless is also disabled.

Before I started fiddling with it would hibernate to disk properly and retain the states of the open apps.

V/R

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Re: Suspend/Hibernate for laptops in Statler?

Since switching to Statler my Thinkpad X60 displays an occasional bug when resuming from suspend: the screen will be black (but the backlight is on and I can see the wifi notification) and the laptop will freeze.

I tried CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2 etc) to get into one of the terminals or CTRL + ALT + Backspace to Kill X but neither work. When this happens the only solution is to reboot the laptop.

I also have Statler running on my Dell X1 and I have no problem whatsoever on it (aside from the anemic CPU wink)

I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu on my X60 - never had any problems running on this machine - and keep #! on my X1, it really rocks on that old thing.