• Registered: 2008-11-24
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Re: The change to Debian explained

bozhkov wrote:

So the "stable" Staler will be based on Squeeze, not on testing? I ask, because as you may know software in debian stable tend to age with time. Is Crunchbang going to make bigger use of it's own repository to repackage versions from testing or the long-term strategy is to "jump" to testing before Debian 7 is released?

Only Philip can answer that question smile however the Statler Alpha repos point to "squeeze" not "testing" as I mentioned above (cat /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't believe me). Furthermore, CrunchBang has never been a "rolling release" distro in the past, and there has been no indication the project is moving in that direction in the future.

The current CrunchBang stable release uses applications from April 2009 (Jaunty), so moving to Squeeze is a big jump forward, not backward like you may have been led to believe. wink

Testing is an unstable "permanent alpha" repository. I would not recommend it for daily use for the typical user, and I think Stable is the right choice if #! is aiming for any sort of basic stability here.

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  • Registered: 2009-12-29
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Re: The change to Debian explained

snowpine wrote:
bozhkov wrote:

So the "stable" Staler will be based on Squeeze, not on testing? I ask, because as you may know software in debian stable tend to age with time. Is Crunchbang going to make bigger use of it's own repository to repackage versions from testing or the long-term strategy is to "jump" to testing before Debian 7 is released?

Only Philip can answer that question smile however the Statler Alpha repos point to "squeeze" not "testing" as I mentioned above (cat /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't believe me). Furthermore, CrunchBang has never been a "rolling release" distro in the past, and there has been no indication the project is moving in that direction in the future.

The current CrunchBang stable release uses applications from April 2009 (Jaunty), so moving to Squeeze is a big jump forward, not backward like you may have been led to believe. wink

Testing is an unstable "permanent alpha" repository. I would not recommend it for daily use for the typical user, and I think Stable is the right choice if #! is aiming for any sort of basic stability here.

You completely misunderstood me. First of all, I'm quite familiar with debian and it's release policy. I was talking about the long-term plan for Crunchbang, as you know software tend to age. Look at the current stable software - it's from the end of 2008, so some may consider it quite ancient, and that is still the current stable version. So my enquiry was whether corenominal is going to add updated software to his custom repository or is going to switch to the next testing at some point.

  • Registered: 2008-11-24
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Re: The change to Debian explained

bozhkov wrote:

You completely misunderstood me. First of all, I'm quite familiar with debian and it's release policy. I was talking about the long-term plan for Crunchbang, as you know software tend to age. Look at the current stable software - it's from the end of 2008, so some may consider it quite ancient, and that is still the current stable version. So my enquiry was whether corenominal is going to add updated software to his custom repository or is going to switch to the next testing at some point.

I understand your question; it is Frequently Asked on these forums. wink

CrunchBang Statler is based on Debian Squeeze. This means it will be a stable release with only bug fixes and security patches, as with all previous #! releases.

Users who would prefer Testing, Unstable, or Experimental can easily point their sources to the desired repo as described in this thread: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … onversion/  (I am typing this from Sid.)

I think what you are really asking is "What happens when we get bored with #!10?" and the answer of course is "We pester Philip for #!11." smile

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  • Registered: 2008-11-29
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Re: The change to Debian explained

After Squeeze goes stable, chances are there will be a squeeze-backports as well:

http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php

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  • Registered: 2009-10-18
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Re: The change to Debian explained

The CrunchBang Statler repository itself has few distro-specific applications, and I think Philip plans to keep those updated on a regular basis.  Most of the apps themselves are pulled in from the Debian Squeeze repository, with the CrunchBang Statler repository primarily supplying config files, scripts, art, etc.

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