• From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Topic: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

I've tried posting before, but it didn't go anywhere so I thought it's time to retry.

1) trying restricted drivers gives a blank screen on startup

2) cannot install driver downloaded from ATI website (not sure why):
user@user-laptop:~$ cd /home/user/downloads
user@user-laptop:~/downloads$ sh ./ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86_64.run
sh: Can't open ./ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86_64.run
user@user-laptop:~/downloads$

3) crunchbang's wiki website says to use restricted drivers but that doesn't work, see 1)

4) checked ubuntuforums and people apparently have the same problems.

suggestions?

  • From: California, USA
  • Registered: 2008-11-29
  • Posts: 8,647

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

Did you make sure that the file is executable?

chmod +x ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86_64.run

Also you might want to redownload the driver since 10.4 is the latest version.

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
  • Registered: 2009-06-29
  • Posts: 1,420

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

Also, what card do you have specifically? Older cards aren't supported IIRC.
Are you using Statler or 9.04? I'm going to assume 9.04. If ubuntu people are having the problems too (again, what card???), then perhaps switching to statler (and thus a newer debian base), you might have more luck.

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  • From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

anonymous,

user@user-laptop:~/downloads$ ls /home/user/downloads
ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86.x86_64.run
user@user-laptop:~/downloads$ chmod +x ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86_64.run
chmod: cannot access `ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86_64.run': No such file or directory
user@user-laptop:~/downloads$
user@user-laptop:~/downloads$ sudo chmod +x ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86_64.run
[sudo] password for user:
chmod: cannot access `ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86_64.run': No such file or directory

Is there something i'm missing entirely?

FiniteStateMachine,

It's an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200. And the machine isn't even 1 year old, so i don't think age is the issue. Currently I'm on 9.10.

  • Registered: 2009-01-08
  • Posts: 7

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86.x86_64.run

smile

try using TAB key. helps you a lot
e.g type "ati-driver" then press TAB

  • From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

erghiez,

oh, #@$%. ati-driver-installer-10-3-x86.x86_64.run. walked right into that 1 smile. thanks a lot for the tab tip! did the trick of installing, however upon rebooting, i got low-graphics mode and had to backup to the previous version.

  • From: Ontario, Canada
  • Registered: 2009-06-29
  • Posts: 1,420

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

how did you go about installing it?
Did you use the automatic option?

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  • From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

FiniteStateMachine,

Yes.

  • From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

FiniteStateMachine,

Why? Is there another way?


Guys, I really need some help here. Here's the old topic. Maybe there's something there.

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … s-problem/

  • From: Ontario, Canada
  • Registered: 2009-06-29
  • Posts: 1,420

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

I wondered because a few guides suggest making a distribution specifc package, then install that package (in this case a .deb), but it isn't needed, and doesn't seem to work as well as the automatic option.

I was going to point you to the guide i used, thinking you might be missing some dependencies, but i don't think it would let you install if that were the case.
Did you follow a certain guide?

I wonder, does the card work properly under ubuntu 10.04, or #! 9.04?

just call me...
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  • From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

Here's the thing.

1) the first thing that comes to mind is to install restricted drivers included with the 9.10. tried. did not work.

2) then, tried installing driver from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/l … ng=English

right below the link, there are things written that may be relevant to my case:
The display driver requires POSIX shared memory to be enabled on the system.
Kernal Sources package is no longer required if Kernel Header package is installed.
32-Bit packages must be installed for 64-Bit Linux drivers to install or work.

However, I looked for POSIX and KERNEL HEADER packages in synaptic, and the boxes were checked. If someone could explain to me what in the world is enabling POSIX shared memory, maybe I could move further in this.

On ubuntu, it is not unheard of getting the card to work. There was this lad who has the exact same card and it works fine for him. Unfortunately, to get in touch with him is impossible. I'm not sure if the card works on 9.04.

And finally, i've looked into literature also. In UBUNTU HACKS by Jonathan Oxer the chapter about video cards says:
sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and then to edit xorg.conf manually. I haven't tried that, but what scared me was that in restricted it calls the driver ati/amd proprietary fglrx graphics driver. So the outcome of trying the book would be the same as trying restricted - black screen upon reboot.

  • From: Ontario, Canada
  • Registered: 2009-06-29
  • Posts: 1,420

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

so you are attempting this on 9.04 right?
POSIX shared memory should be enabled on pretty much any modern system, so thats not something you need to worry about.

Again, did you follow a guide to installing via the script amd provides?
To be honest, i'd probably just download all the proper dependencies, then redo the driver install.

Alternatively, try moving to Statler. If 10.4 and Statler work, then you can identify that it is a problem with 9.04

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  • From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

I'm on 9.10.

by guide you mean https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/ … 4-inst.pdf ?

Here's what they say:
1) Have this before installing:
XOrg 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 7.4 or 7.5
Linux kernel 2.6 or above
glibc version 2.2 or 2.3
POSIX Shared Memory (/dev/shm) support is required for 3D applications

From that, I didn't have glibc. Solved through synaptic.

2)ALSO, have this:
XFree86-Mesa-libGL
libstdc++
libgcc
XFree86-libs
fontconfig
freetype
zlib
gcc

Here, I'm not sure what to do. Some packages have several versions, some were already checked, so in terms of compatibility, it might be difficult to predict what will go well together. But, I made sure I have at least one version of each.

And finally,
3) backup xorg.conf before installing

apart from 2) there's not much room to make a mistake.

  • From: Ontario, Canada
  • Registered: 2009-06-29
  • Posts: 1,420

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

This is what you want to follow. It's a step-by-step guide, lists dependencies you should have, and generally should do a pretty dang good job of making sure things are installed properly.

You'll need 

    * build-essential
    * fakeroot
    * dh-make
    * debconf

And then go here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu … s_manually
[It's technically for Jaunty, but applies perfectly to 9.10]

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  • From: GTA, CANADA
  • Registered: 2009-04-26
  • Posts: 32

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

IT WORKED! IT WORKED!

I mean, i got skeptical at first because of this:

Error! There are no instances of module: fglrx
8.712 located in the DKMS tree.
Errors during DKMS module removal
Uninstall fglrx driver complete...
Selecting previously deselected package fglrx-kernel-source.
Unpacking fglrx-kernel-source (from fglrx-kernel-source_8.723-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package fglrx-amdcccle.
Unpacking fglrx-amdcccle (from fglrx-amdcccle_8.723-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up fglrx-kernel-source (2:8.723-0ubuntu1) ...
Loading new fglrx-8.723 DKMS files...
First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building initial module for 2.6.28-13-generic, architecture -a i686
Done.

fglrx.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
- Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
- Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/updates/dkms/

depmod......

DKMS: install Completed.
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)

Setting up xorg-driver-fglrx (2:8.723-0ubuntu1) ...

Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up fglrx-amdcccle (2:8.723-0ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for libc6 ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-13-generic
user@user-laptop:~$

and the fact that i had 6 deb files at 3rd step, it only said to dpkg 3 of them.

but after sudo reboot it's all nice and buttery:
user@user-laptop:~$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200
OpenGL version string: 3.2.9756 Compatibility Profile Context

FSM, you are magnificent! I'll tattoo this flippin guide on my front and # ! on my buttcheeks.

IT WORKED! I'm celebrating %).

Last edited by ant1her0 (2010-05-24 23:18:53)

  • From: Ontario, Canada
  • Registered: 2009-06-29
  • Posts: 1,420

Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

ant1her0 wrote:

IT WORKED! IT WORKED!
...
FSM, you are magnificent! I'll tattoo this flippin guide on my front and # ! on my buttcheeks.

IT WORKED! I'm celebrating %).

I'll hold you to that.

Seriously though, im glad it worked smile
I had similar problems (black screen), so i know the frustration.
Glad we figured it out though! big_smile

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  • Morley
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  • Registered: 2010-02-17
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Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

I am having the same problem ... do I boot into a command line in order to try these fixes?

Edit: I have never tried to connect to the internet in the command line before ... would it be easier to just re-install, and remember that I have to follow the above guide before trying the drivers? :-)

Last edited by Morley (2010-09-02 17:08:47)

I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation!

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  • luc
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  • Registered: 2010-03-21
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Re: ATI RADEON graphics problem II

Morley wrote:

Edit: I have never tried to connect to the internet in the command line before ...

connect to www via cli
there are various browsers for command line: elinks or lynx for example (and of course wget :-)
luc