• From: Winston-Salem, NC
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Topic: A little feedback

You guys have done an outstanding job. I've been a Debian/Ubuntu user since 2004, and I've never seen a distro master openbox (or fluxbox) so well before. You have very sane defaults, and I appreciate that. The menu items to edit config files are a very nice touch.

I've installed #! on my laptop this weekend and plan on doing the same for my work machine on Monday. If I keep it that way for at least month, I'll be sending along a Donation.

A few things:
-Upon 1st boot or installation, offer the user to change the apt sources to a local repository. I'm in the US, so the first thing I did was sed the sources.list file. Not a big deal, but you guys have so much polish on this wonderful distro already, I thought the idea might appeal to you.

-I noticed the next version is going to be Debian, not Ubuntu. I assume this means no upgrading smile which is understandable. What do you plan to do to replace the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?

-Any chance you might switch the included browser to Chromium instead of GNU IceCat?


Thanks again--cheers!

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Re: A little feedback

Hi kaipanoi!
Really, it must be said that #! is developed by a single man, Philip, or corenomial as he is known on these forums. The community supports him, but really he deserves the praise.
I noticed the apt sources issue too, and its like that right now in the alpha as well, but it shouldn't be hard to change in time for release.
And yes, you won't be able to go from 9.04 to 10 without a fresh install. I'm not sure whats replacing the restricted-extras package, but  I can tell you (from Statler now), that everything works much the same as 9.04, that is out of the box flash support, etc.

And the current browser is Iceweasel not IceCat, I don't think there are any plans to change it. It's easy enough to change if you prefer, but firefox really is the best sane default.

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Re: A little feedback

kaipanoi wrote:

-I noticed the next version is going to be Debian, not Ubuntu. I assume this means no upgrading smile which is understandable. What do you plan to do to replace the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?

For those that wish to follow the testing path then a simple change to your sources list keeps you on a rolling release. The main release will remain on squeeze for those who prefer a more stable ride. A win win for everyone smile As for something like the restricted-xtras package this won't be necessary as Statler already includes most of the restricted drivers and codecs by default

kaipanoi wrote:

-Any chance you might switch the included browser to Chromium instead of GNU IceCat?

Statler doesn't use GNU IceCat

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Re: A little feedback

^ I think most of the packages included in ubuntu-restricted-extras are available in Debian's non-free repos, but aren't pulled together by a comparable metapackage.  I'm not sure what these include aside from Flash and the bad and ugly gstreamer codecs; I went ahead and installed the latter on my Statler system because I still prefer Totem for videos.

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Re: A little feedback

pvsage is correct, heres the complete command to install the packages on Debian:

sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly icedtea6-plugin libavcodec52 ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar

And if you need libmp4v2-1, its available from the Debian Multimedia repo.

Also Statler already has the Microsoft font, flash, and unrar so it just needs icedtea6 and gstreamer. Gstreamer isn't necessary since VLC can play so many formats though.

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Re: A little feedback

Hello kaipanoi, welcome to the forums! smile

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@anonymous:  I noticed Debian also has a gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad package, but I couldn't quite tell what codecs were split off from "bad", or what it was about these that made them downright naughty.  Might as well throw that package in as well though, just to make sure you can play whatever's thrown your way.

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  • From: Winston-Salem, NC
  • Registered: 2010-06-05
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Re: A little feedback

Thank all of you for your replies!

I can't believe this is a one man band!! I'm even more impressed now. Oh and sorry, I get the GNU IceCat vs. Debian Iceweasel thing mixed up. They're both FF (sort of), and that's what I meant. You're right though, the Mozilla browser--whatever you want to call it--is probably a more sane default than anything else.

Again, this is a great distro! Thanks for everything! If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know. I'm a SysAdmin by day, not too bad with bash and don't mind writing documentation.

Cheers!

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Re: A little feedback

Statler Alpha 2 xfce i686:  in live cd there is no mouse pointer.  rebooting and using failsafe there is a odd looking square in place of the mouse pointer.  I know that has to do with my video card NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 .  I am reluctant to install without knowing what to do if mouse pointer is not available - any suggestions?

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Re: A little feedback

kaipanoi wrote:

Thank all of you for your replies!

I can't believe this is a one man band!! I'm even more impressed now. ...  If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know. I'm a SysAdmin by day, not too bad with bash and don't mind writing documentation.

I keep wondering if the #! community could help Philip out somehow. I'm sure the coders would love to pitch in. The rest of us could at least do support stuff like documentation and bug testing.

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Re: A little feedback

Texus wrote:

I keep wondering if the #! community could help Philip out somehow.  The rest of us could at least do support stuff like documentation and bug testing.

"We" are doing the 'bug' testing' as we speak . . . and the #! Dev actually listens to us.

And remember to buy 'stuff' from the #!Crunchbang Store/Shop ... to help support (pay for) the Muppet-based servers and broadband upkeep.

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Re: A little feedback

Texus wrote:

The rest of us could at least do support stuff like documentation and bug testing.

As far as documentation, you can always expand and edit the wiki. One person tried making some offline docs, though stopped and its way old now:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … iscussion/

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