Topic: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

I usually always do an apt-get preload, and localpurge after installing a debian based OS. Does anyone know of any other goodies?

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

The first thing you should do is "update"

sudo apt-get update --upgrade

If you installed #!Statler 'fresh' today (originally released a couple months ago) ... you'd have close to 500 updates.
Lots of updates between #!Statler and the Debian Squeeze repros.

I re-installed #!Statler Xfce on my laptop, a couple weeks back ... so, I know this to be true.

Last edited by vrkalak (2010-06-19 21:25:21)

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Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Oh yeah? ... well, when I did an ' lsb_release -a ' I get :
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 9.04
Release:    9.04
Codename:    jaunty

Is that what you have too? I think that I'm using the latest release. How can I tell?

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

vrkalak thought you had CrunchBang Statler 10 since you mentioned "debian".

To make sure CrunchBang is up-to-date just run:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
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Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Pelon wrote:

Oh yeah? ... well, when I did an ' lsb_release -a ' I get :
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 9.04
Release:    9.04
Codename:    jaunty

Is that what you have too? I think that I'm using the latest release. How can I tell?

 Sat Jun 19, 21:29:21
 Sector11 working in: ~
 0 $ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    CrunchBang
Description:    CrunchBang 10 statler
Release:    10
Codename:    statler

 Sat Jun 19, 21:29:26
 Sector11 working in: ~
 0 $

#! v9-04 is that last release based on Ubuntu.  #! v10 is based on Debian "squeeze" and is called Statler.

#! V10 comes with either Xfce -=or=- OpenBox

v10 was release a few months ago and is an "Alpha" release - Alpha 1 to be exact.
I'm using it on a daily basis, I like it.

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

how can I get #! v10 with xfce without deleting what I currently have which is v9.04?

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

You most likely can't.  neutral  The binaries used by Ubuntu and Debian aren't entirely compatible.  A new installation would be the better choice -- snowpine has spoken about this on numerous occasions, more eloquently and in greater detail than I.  Perhaps you could find one of those posts.  wink

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

well I'm running the lite version of CB.  Is CB statler a bit faster and liter than what I'm using?

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Pelon wrote:

well I'm running the lite version of CB.  Is CB statler a bit faster and liter than what I'm using?

I don't know.  I've never used it.  Unless you have a horribly slow download rate you ought to try Statler as the Ubuntu-based distribution will [soon] no longer be supported.

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Oh.  The title of your thread  -- were you looking for technical hints or cool applications?  There's a thread on apps here http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … rred-apps/ that's been pretty busy lately.  smile

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Pelon wrote:

how can I get #! v10 with xfce without deleting what I currently have which is v9.04?

Actually this depends on how you have your system setup.

If you have a partition free that can hold your current ~/home you can keep a lot of things, copy everything in your ~/home to that partition in a directory called: /904 (for example) do not call it /home for obvious reasons.

copy v9.04 "~/.mozilla" to v10 ~/.mozilla and iceweseal (firefox by another name) will have all your bookmarks

copy v9,04 ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to v10 and remane to ~/.icedove (Icedove is Thunderbird by another name)

So there are two BIG things you can do.  Also all your images and personal files (OO or Abiword, png's etc) can be copied back to v10.  And if you have any files that put config info in your home directory like ~/.homebank you can copy those across as well.

See: [Solved - Twice] Can Statler use 9.04.01 /home? it is is talking about OpenBox to OpenBox versions but the same principle applies.

WARNING: copy ~/.mozilla, ~/.icedove and things like ~/.homebank to your #! v10 /home directory BEFORE running the programs or they will create a new config file set and it will be much harder to blend them in.  If they do exist the first time you run them they will be used.

Last edited by Sector11 (2010-06-20 01:54:37)

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

....See: [Solved - Twice] Can Statler use 9.04.01 /home? it is is talking about OpenBox to OpenBox versions but the same principle applies....

Thank you for mentioning that.  I didn't see it earlier, perhaps because it was OpenBox related.

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

winotree wrote:

....See: [Solved - Twice] Can Statler use 9.04.01 /home? it is is talking about OpenBox to OpenBox versions but the same principle applies....

Thank you for mentioning that.  I didn't see it earlier, perhaps because it was OpenBox related.


Not a problem.  I started with Gnome (Ubuntu), and imported my stuff into Xfce4 (Xubuntu) and then to #! OpenBox v9.04 (Ubuntu) and then to #! v10 OpenBox (Debian).

I found out very early on to have /home on it's own partition and all personal stuff, images doc files, pdf etc on yet another partition if possible.  My 250GB HD looks like this:

sda1 - / - #! 904
sda2 - / - #! 10
sda3 - /swap
sda4 - extended
sda5 - /media/5 - copy home here.
sda6 - /media/6 - all personal files
sda7 - /home -  #! v904
sda8 - /home  - #! v10

plus 2 pendrives, a 2GB and a 16GB, and a 2GB SD Card with a card reader that get used to back things up as well.

Sometime in the next little while I plan on installing #! v10 - Xfce on sda1 and sda7 and then reinstalling #! v10 OB over top of itself so it is first on boot-up.  I really need a second drive.  smile

Last edited by Sector11 (2010-06-20 02:44:16)

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

winotree wrote:

You most likely can't.  neutral  The binaries used by Ubuntu and Debian aren't entirely compatible.  A new installation would be the better choice -- snowpine has spoken about this on numerous occasions, more eloquently and in greater detail than I.  Perhaps you could find one of those posts.  wink

LOL thanks for the shout-out. smile

I always do a fresh reinstall when there is a new CrunchBang release. With the previous Ubuntu base, this meant every 6 months. Now that #! will be based on Debian, the releases will slow down considerably. A good thing in my opinion. smile

Keeping your /home from release to release might be possible; I really can't say because I always wipe everything and start fresh. wink My documents, music, photos, etc. are all on a separate data partition (and backed up to an external drive of course) because I dual boot, so there is nothing valuable in my /home anyhow. I don't even keep /home on a separate partition.

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Oh.  The title of your thread  -- were you looking for technical hints or cool applications?  There's a thread on apps here http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … rred-apps/ that's been pretty busy lately.  smile

// I had technical hints in mind. Thanks
Well I learned quite a bit of new things today regarding CB. Idk that I'm convinced to make a switch to statler just yet, because I'm just getting used to v9.04. I just need a super basic setup that is not bloated and gives a responsive feel to my netbook. I will be using my netbook primarily for web  browsing and development.

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Desktop Linux distro (let's say #!, Ubuntu and so on).

  • full update.

  • installing all the software I need regularly (maybe including commercial drivers, firmwares)

  • copying over my own scripts that should reside in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. I know it might be bad style, but why should I care big_smile

  • setting the basic options I need every day (like path variables, bashrc and .profile magic, sudo stuff for cpu governors, hostfile)

  • harvesting my ~/ backup for client profiles and important settings, wich will not be redone

  • implanting my local script collection into ~/bin

  • see if any default cronjobs get in my way and if any cronjobs are missing or need intervention

But, in fact, the best thing to do after installing any OS is a walk in the forest/park/mine field to clear your head.

I'm so meta, even this acronym

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

I do the update thing.
Then copy over my favourite version of .conkyrc for xmms and gmail.
Install Koffice and a few other necessities for my work and....
Then get a cuppa joe and bask in the vision of excellence produced by Corenominal and the volunteers! big_smile
Kyte

Kyte: Always flittin' around with his head in the clouds!

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

....I just need a super basic setup that is not bloated and gives a responsive feel to my netbook. I will be using my netbook primarily for web  browsing and development.

That's understandable and you've come to the right place.  Personally I'd agree with you [see quote] and have found Statler to be just about right for me.  It's not quite as fast booting up as the default XandrOS on this old eeepc but it's sure a lot more handsome!  big_smile

I used an earlier version of CrunchBang for a short while -- don't remember too much about it as I was installing, deleting and reinstalling an operating system at the rate of one or two a week for several months.  Needless to say they've all blurred together.  Enough of that -- your choice of a CrunchBang variant for a netbook is an excellent one.  I'm sure you'll be satisfied.  See you around the forums?  wink

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

^ I agree with winotree.  If it does what you want and it feels comfortable stay with it.  In time when #! v10 is stable and you want to change or when Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported (April 2011) you will have a better knowledge of #!.

If you take a look in your ~/.config/openbox you will see (maybe more)

~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
~/.config/openbox/rc.xml
~/.config/openbox/menu.xml

and I see:

~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh_904
~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh_10
~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
~/.config/openbox/rc.xml_904
~/.config/openbox/rc.xml_10
~/.config/openbox/rc.xml
~/.config/openbox/menu.xml_904
~/.config/openbox/menu.xml_10
~/.config/openbox/menu.xml

So you see, I brought #! v9.04 stuff with me to 10, and renamed the "original" v10 files to preserve them... then started editing things for my own use with Statler.

When you are ready to make the change there will be all the help you need right here, either by reading or asking.

Mean time, enjoy your self.

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Sector11 wrote:

when Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported (April 2011)

Correction: October 2010. smile

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

Awebb wrote:

But, in fact, the best thing to do after installing any OS is a walk in the forest/park/mine field to clear your head.

GREAT advice!  And the parts I snipped as well. lol

Re: what are some good things to do immediately after installing #!?

snowpine wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

when Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported (April 2011)

Correction: October 2010. smile

You are right I made a mistake.  Where is the Panic Button. lol