Topic: debian netinstall help

hi i just installed debian netinstall and i selected nothing to be preinstalled, no preset because that's the way i want it to be so i can try to install only the things i need
question is what do i need?
is there anyone that is willing to guide me via an instant messenger or something into the world of raw linux? (raw linux?)

Re: debian netinstall help

well the question is, what do you need for what? Are you trying to make a server?are you making a kde desktop? an openbox one?

Re: debian netinstall help

well i don't know really
i just wanted to have something uber personalized
so i want to try it all (if not all then as many as i can)
i know what my favorite programming editor is, i know what my favorite browser is but what about other things?
like what's my favorite panel or file manager? i want to try out many things to find out what my perfect personalized linux would be like
i'm running on a netbook btw and i want to make the install as lightweight (while still looking very good) as possible
i have no idea what i have to install on it at this point (not even sudo is installed on it) so thats why i want someone to guide me

Last edited by ali (2010-07-16 18:28:21)

Re: debian netinstall help

My suggestion is, use a #! Live CD and copy over whichever config files tickle your fancy, for example ~/.conkyrc if you like #!'s Conky config.

Personally I would just use #!; Corenomial's hard work will save you a lot of time and effort. wink

Re: debian netinstall help

i am using #! at the moment
thing is when i installed debian netinstall theres nothing on there, no graphic interface just the command line

Last edited by ali (2010-07-16 18:41:47)

Re: debian netinstall help

you can apt-get any panel, file manager, music player - if not, you find the sources on the internet. just change the autostart.sh to which panel etc. should be loaded at start. Else you need to install from scratch, as you say, sudo, wicd/nm, openbox, obmenu, obconfig, nitrogen, tint2, fbpanel/lxpanel or whatever you like, write an autostart.sh file, copy the menu.xml and rc.xml from the original directory, modify them... it's quite a lot of little, PITA work. not as PITA as arch, though smile

Last edited by machinebacon (2010-07-16 18:41:26)

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Re: debian netinstall help

actually you can do it like arch - that's first setting up X, getting the video drivers, and so on ...

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Re: debian netinstall help

well i want to do that
i just need someone who doesn't get really pissed off at noobs and is willing to guide me through setting up X, setting up sudo and stuff

Re: debian netinstall help

you can take a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ - it is exactly what you need smile

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Re: debian netinstall help

Having gone through a lot of  these kind of minimal installs with my eeepc 701, I can give you the list of minimum packages to have a working system with the debian-eeepc net-install;when you reboot use the commandline and type:
$ sudo apt-get install xinit xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-input-mouse xfonts-base
then it depends on which windows manager you want to use and whether you want to have a graphical login manager.
If you want a light Gnome, then $ sudo apt-get install gnome-minimal
                   Openbox, $ sudo apt-get install openbox obmenu obconf
If you want a graphical login, either install slim or gdm
Then $  sudo apt-get install synaptic, to be able to have a graphical package mamager

Last edited by oupsemma (2010-07-16 19:36:31)

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Re: debian netinstall help

i don't have sudo on it tongue
i'll reinstall it tomorrow and this time i'll choose for desktop environment and laptop presets

Last edited by ali (2010-07-16 19:54:29)

Re: debian netinstall help

Installing SUDO in Debian

# apt-get install sudo

sudo is configured entirely through the file /etc/sudoers. This file controls the commands which users are allowed to run.

# edit /etc/sudoers

    add a line:

    user ALL=(ALL) ALL

To run one command as root:

sudo command

For more commands, run your shell with sudo.

sudo sh      (if sh is your shell.)

Be careful when you are root. When you are done, type exit

For more details about sudo options check man pages of sudo.

some random SUDO examples:

# groups

User_Alias  ROOT = user1, user2, user3
User_Alias  WEBMASTERS = user4, user5, user6

# commands

Cmnd_Alias  APACHE = /usr/local/sbin/kickapache
Cmnd_Alias  TAIL = /usr/bin/tail

Cmnd_Alias      SHUTDOWN = /sbin/shutdown

Cmnd_Alias      APT = /usr/bin/apt-get, /usr/bin/dpkg

# privileges 

ROOT        ALL = (ALL) ALL
WEBMASTERS  ALL = PASSWD : APACHE, TAIL
admin       ALL = NOPASSWD : /etc/init.d/apache 

http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/sudo.htm
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usually you can use su instead of sudo:

su root apt-get install sudo
cd /etc
su root
visudo

at least

root    ALL=(ALL) ALL

XOR

%sudo      ALL=(ALL) ALL

should be included

later add users who can use sudo

addgroup *username* sudo

Last edited by machinebacon (2010-07-16 20:03:29)

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Re: debian netinstall help

wow, i tired debian netinstall with standard system, laptop and desktop enviroment presets and it's so bad!
i also takes almost 4gbs so where's the minimal everyone was talking about in my #! zero thread?

Re: debian netinstall help

Which 'standard system' was included? Gnome, KDE, XFCE? Just don't install the metapackages.

Edit: I understand - the step where you can choose the packages. Untick "Desktop environments" and only stay with standard system. You will apt-get install the DE later separately.

Last edited by machinebacon (2010-07-17 12:18:20)

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Re: debian netinstall help

I've been through the squeeze netinstall and , after various tries , installed a very minimal system. For that, you have to tick nothing at all, apart from *laptop if you want to (it'll install wireless-tools and wpa_supplicant, but also bluez, X11, cups, acpi, cpufrequtils and various other files). Don't tick standard system, it'll retrieve 1153 files! Don't install desktop either.

The installer was unable to install Grub on the MBR or on any partitions of my system, so I've stopped the experience there (and installed Mandriva instead tongue ).
Going to the Debian eeepc wiki, I've seen that their nice custom installer does not exist for Squeeze; it's a pity, it was so funky to use it!

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Re: debian netinstall help

You really need to know what you like for basic applications in order to build a good custom netinstall system. smile It would be good if you tried applications first, then start off with customising your own system.