• Registered: 2010-08-23
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Topic: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

Hello everyone,

I've been using CrunchBang for a short while, and love the look and feel. I was wondering, is there a way to change the repository it checks so that I can upgrade CrunchBang to 10.04? do-release-upgrade claims that there is no new release; not sure what file dictates where it checks... I dont

I know this wiki article :  http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/adding_ … plications
explains how to do it with a complete reinstall, but I was thinking since it's already built upon the ubuntu distribution if there is a way of upgrading and if not, why not?

Thanks in advance!

  • Registered: 2009-09-19
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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

No, because they are based on different distribution. 9.04 is ubuntu-based, 10.04 is debian-based.

The only way to upgrade is a clean install.

  • Registered: 2010-08-23
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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

I meant update to the 10.04 Ubuntu distribution, it would have the same end result as installing CrunchBang settings in Ubuntu 10.04.

  • Registered: 2009-09-19
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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

Sorry, you're right, my mistake.

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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

CrunchBang 9.04 is, officially, a dead end... the project has switched to Debian and #! 9.04 will not be supported once  Jaunty reaches its "end of life" in a couple of months.

Unofficially, some forum members have attempted to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 or 10.04... with mixed results. Use the forum Search feature and you will find a number of threads on the topic, including this one started by me: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … mic-koala/

  • Texus
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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

System-upgrading to 10.04 is a bad idea. I speak from experience sad

#! alpha-2 is coming along very nicely. I guess (hope) Philip's going to release the beta before 9.04 goes braindead. I'd hate to switch my production machines to some other distro.

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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

Texus wrote:

System-upgrading to 10.04 is a bad idea. I speak from experience sad

#! alpha-2 is coming along very nicely. I guess (hope) Philip's going to release the beta before 9.04 goes braindead. I'd hate to switch my production machines to some other distro.

I fail to understand why people would want to upgrade just for upgrading sake, if it's tried tested and true (stable) then leave building testing releases like Squeeze to the ./Devs

As far as I can establish you can have a Box running a stable release for years without any problems what-so-ever newer releases are only tweaked up versions of the original with more eye-candy and better support for later versions of hardware. So before upgrading I always stop and ask myself, is it really worth all that hassle, the age old adage of "if it aint broke dont try to fix it!" springs readily to mind. wink

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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

Apex wrote:

I fail to understand why people would want to upgrade just for upgrading sake, if it's tried tested and true (stable) then leave building testing releases like Squeeze to the ./Devs

Migrating from 9.04 before October is not "upgrading just for upgrading sake."

Canonical is ending all support for the Jaunty release in October. There will be no more security patches or bug fixes after that date. For some users, using an "end of life" release on a production machine is simply not an option.

I haven't decided yet what to do with my 9.04 box, which runs a lot of important (to me, anyway) stuff. Considering migrating to CentOS due to their very long support cycle.

  • Texus
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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

snowpine wrote:
Apex wrote:

I fail to understand why people would want to upgrade just for upgrading sake, if it's tried tested and true (stable) then leave building testing releases like Squeeze to the ./Devs

Canonical is ending all support for the Jaunty release in October. There will be no more security patches or bug fixes after that date. For some users, using an "end of life" release on a production machine is simply not an option.

Exactamente!

But on a secondary note, you may want to upgrade simply because the newer version can reasonably be expected to be better on some counts and no worse on others. Of course, it doesn't play out like that in real life always, but why would someone knowingly want to work with outdated, unsupported tools?

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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

Texus wrote:

why would someone knowingly want to work with outdated, unsupported tools?

Well, to me computer software is just that - a set of tools.  A hammer drives a nail; a screwdriver...does exactly what it says on the tin.  I know luthiers who use spokeshaves to shape guitar necks.  If a tool is doing its job well, who's to say it's "outdated"?

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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

snowpine wrote:

I haven't decided yet what to do with my 9.04 box, which runs a lot of important (to me, anyway) stuff. Considering migrating to CentOS due to their very long support cycle.

Me too. Very long support is what is needed for computers as old as mine, since the later releases of most distros require more resources and the newest kernels no longer support older hardware.

My old hand-me-down runs superbly with an older distro and the newer ones are increasingly problematic on it. Rather than run an unsupported OS, I too am thinking about one like CentOS, with very long-term support to last, hopefully, for as long as the machine does.

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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

Apex wrote:

...I fail to understand why people would want to upgrade just for upgrading sake, if it's tried tested and true (stable) then leave building testing releases like Squeeze to the ./Devs...

+1

I am happy to stick with #! 9.04 until Statler leaves the alpha development phase and becomes a stable release.

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  • Texus
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I'm leaning towards sticking with 9.04 and keeping my fingers crossed as well. After distro-hopping for n number of years, I found #! to be The One for me. I'd hate to shift loyalties again. But working with an unpatched system makes me nervous.

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Re: CrunchBang Update of 9.04

Texus wrote:

I'm leaning towards sticking with 9.04 and keeping my fingers crossed as well.  I found #! to be The One for me.  But working with an unpatched system makes me nervous.

In regards to "working with an unpatched" system, I made this post else where but, it fits perfectly here, as well.

Actually, since #!Statler is based on Debian Squeeze.  And Squeeze has entered the 'freeze' stage in it's development.
It makes more sense to base a #! distribution on  Debian 6 Squeeze, instead of Lenny ... as Squeeze is "soon-to-be" the main Debian 'stable' release.

Good idea, in holding off on making #!Crunchbang 'stable' until after Squeeze is 'stable' too.      corenominal wisdom.

corenominal made the right choice in making Squeeze the base of #!, instead of basing it on 'testing'

Crunchbang Statler is as 'patched' and updated as is Squeeze, with a very stable Debian base.
Sure, neither has been released as 'stable' yet ... but, it won't be long.

In either case, both are 'stable' enough for everyday use ... as for me, I use my PC for work and stability is an issue with me.  My PC's entire 2Tb hard-drive is dedicated to #!Statler.

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