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#1 2012-12-25 11:39:34

xor
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2012-01-11
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enlightenment e17

after only 12 years (!) of development, this has finally been released on 2012-12-21:

http://www.enlightenment.org/

i've taken a peek, it's clean and fast, but i can't stand the bling...
however, merry x-mas ! wink

EDIT: e17 complete review http://linuxlibrary.org/enlightenment-1 … op-review/

Last edited by xor (2012-12-27 19:18:08)

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#2 2012-12-25 13:18:41

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Re: enlightenment e17

Yes, the e17 - if you like migraine you will love e17 big_smile

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#3 2012-12-25 14:34:41

xor
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Re: enlightenment e17

das wäre doch viel zu warm... ich habe nur noch sandalen an und den kühlschrank offen !  tongue

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#4 2012-12-25 18:28:26

paolo
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Registered: 2009-07-11
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Re: enlightenment e17

Migraine is a beautiful name for a new E17/BBQ dishes  devil
The italian word is Emicrania  tongue


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#5 2012-12-25 19:16:06

mishle
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From: Bitterroot Valley
Registered: 2010-07-20
Posts: 167

Re: enlightenment e17

jens wrote:

after only 12 years (!) of development, this has finally been released on 2012-12-21:

http://www.enlightenment.org/

i've taken a peek, it's clean and fast, but i can't stand the bling...
however, merry x-mas ! wink


They took so long I found openbox #!

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#6 2012-12-26 14:22:35

Coxeroni
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Registered: 2012-12-26
Posts: 3

Re: enlightenment e17

And how did you install it? There is nothing shown for debian on the enlightment page. Is it enough to install the package e17 via apt-get? How to start it then?! Sorry for the noob question, but I couldn't get it to work big_smile

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#7 2012-12-27 09:01:08

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#8 2012-12-27 21:15:10

joek
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Posts: 497

Re: enlightenment e17

My god, they've finally released a stable version?!
Not my cup of tea, but nice to know that e17 is still being maintained...

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#9 2012-12-27 21:33:10

Coxeroni
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Re: enlightenment e17

Thanks for that but unfortunately the box to change the window manager (?) is not present in crunchbang.

Trying

update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

is also not successful. So my question is basically:

How do I change the windows manager/desktop environment in crunchbang?

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#10 2012-12-27 21:48:53

pidsley
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Registered: 2012-05-23
Posts: 1,752

Re: enlightenment e17

Coxeroni wrote:

How do I change the windows manager/desktop environment in crunchbang?

Lots of topics on this already. Try the "search" feature.

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 22#p180522
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=19381

Or you can remove SLiM and install LightDM. LightDM has a drop-down on the login screen that allows you to switch window managers.

Last edited by pidsley (2012-12-27 22:00:14)

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#11 2012-12-27 22:03:23

Coxeroni
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Posts: 3

Re: enlightenment e17

pidsley wrote:
Coxeroni wrote:

How do I change the windows manager/desktop environment in crunchbang?

Lots of topics on this already. Try the "search" feature.

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 22#p180522
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=19381

Or you can remove SLiM and install LightDM. LightDM has a drop-down on the login screen that allows you to switch window managers.

Thanks unfortunately I asked first and searched then big_smile Resolved it by just editing slim.conf, worked like a charm smile

e17 doesn't look bad, I might look further into it. Was anyone successful running a network manager? The suggested connman didn't do jack shit for me wink

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#12 2012-12-28 00:12:51

Iranon
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Registered: 2012-03-10
Posts: 259

Re: enlightenment e17

Does stable mean it no longer explodes  in a pretty fireworks display several times a day?

Last edited by Iranon (2012-12-28 00:13:26)


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#13 2012-12-28 10:54:21

servingwater
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Registered: 2009-02-28
Posts: 466

Re: enlightenment e17

Isn't Bohdi Linux using enlightenment?
They always seemed to make it work rather nicely from what I have seen.

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#14 2012-12-28 19:46:20

gensym
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Registered: 2011-10-17
Posts: 447

Re: enlightenment e17

servingwater wrote:

Isn't Bohdi Linux using enlightenment?
They always seemed to make it work rather nicely from what I have seen.

Yes it is.
Though (imho) someone wanting to try enlightenment -- to see just how light it could be --  should rather go with Macpup.

Last edited by gensym (2012-12-28 23:01:54)


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#15 2012-12-28 22:36:39

lowrider
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From: Germany
Registered: 2011-09-10
Posts: 732

Re: enlightenment e17

^ +1 at what he says
- macpup is for real a valid sugesstion (just keep in mind that the main developer keeps out the composite module for a never figured out incompatibility with all versions of macup). a bit outdated though.

- bodhi for itself comes with almost no applications/programs installed (which means you need to install nearly all of your everyday progs yourself, but apt-get install stuff* is your friend) and a nice preconfigured e17 desktop with a few profiles for desktop/notebook/tablet...

- debian (outdated and no extra-modules) or archlinux (bleeding edge but not for the unexperienced)
and putting e17 ontop is another way...

Last edited by lowrider (2012-12-28 22:37:32)


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#16 2012-12-28 23:06:36

lowrider
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Posts: 732

Re: enlightenment e17

sorry for doublepost
but a screenshot tells more than words  wink

2012_12_28_235715_1440x900_scrot.jpg

Bodhi Linux (testing repo)
default e17 theme, composite enabled, awoken icons, forecast module and one  of the default wallpapers.

Last edited by lowrider (2012-12-28 23:07:25)


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#17 2012-12-29 09:39:30

servingwater
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Posts: 466

Re: enlightenment e17

gensym wrote:
servingwater wrote:

Isn't Bohdi Linux using enlightenment?
They always seemed to make it work rather nicely from what I have seen.

Yes it is.
Though (imho) someone wanting to try enlightenment -- to see just how light it could be --  should rather go with Macpup.

Never heard of macpup so I checked it out on distrowatch and found it's based on puppy which makes it already a nogo for me based on my personal (shallow big_smile  ) opinion.

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#18 2013-01-04 14:36:12

bozhkov
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Registered: 2009-12-29
Posts: 464

Re: enlightenment e17

I just gave Bodhi 2.2 a try and I have to say, I like the whole idea and now with the stable (not quite) 1.0 version, the whole e17 environment seems less ugly, tho I had some showstoppers which ruined my live session.

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#19 2013-01-05 18:20:40

CBizgreat!
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Registered: 2011-07-27
Posts: 1,865

Re: enlightenment e17

Well thanks for the heads up ...

Tried e17 ... at lst despised it w a passion, persisted long enough to figure the sucker out. Once figured out how to set all my ole favorite keyboard shortcuts, kinda grew on me. This OS has it set as default, isn't the newest reiteration you're mentioning Jens. Fairly sure this version, is whatever was in the experimental repo's at the time. Do think e17 is a good looking gui w/o being too bad of a system resource sucking pigdog. Haven't experienced any stability problems with e17 so far. Hopefully I can sum up the energy and interest to try their latest release. It's not a priority ... though thanks for sharing the info.

Is good to hear there's still work being done with this piece of software. Hardly ever boot this OS anymore ... Pretty much only to keep it upgraded. If you can live with the over-complication .... 7 million dials + buttons + etc, is kinda nice to be able to change the whole look of a gui in a coupla clicks.


Vll! smile

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#20 2013-01-27 00:25:19

lowrider
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Registered: 2011-09-10
Posts: 732

Re: enlightenment e17

jens wrote:

i've taken a peek, it's clean and fast, but i can't stand the bling...

ah c'mon. to bling or not to bling, it's up to you. tongue  i would love to see e17 stable on debian sid. hopefully it doesn't take too long.
i have a great time with it on arch. love it!
2013_01_27_010436_1440x900_scrot.jpg


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#21 2013-01-27 01:14:25

NNJRob
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Posts: 18

Re: enlightenment e17

And there's Snowlinux, that puts out both 'buntu & wheezy, in various WM's. This is their recent e17 version:  Snowlinux Debian e17

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#22 2013-02-16 18:19:08

jhoo
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Registered: 2013-02-16
Posts: 2

Re: enlightenment e17

[n00b]
first encountered E when i was distro hopping and tried Bodhi (recent version, 2.2.0?).  loved E but Bodhi was crashy for me (old P4 with Matrox g550).  tried Elive, even paid for it (!) but the package system there seemed pretty n00b hostile, among other things.  then snow -- meh -- and so i'm back at #! (now 11) because it feels like a good place to be.

keep thinking E would be nice though, wondering if i could give it a spin here.  read through this thread and it's not at all clear to me if there is a path forward.  would like to avoid the whole compile-it-yourself thing if at all possible, my n00bness and all.

looked in Synaptic but no joy there, just a few support packages.  the E site has instructions for Debian but they are pretty ancient in distro years and i'd rather not pollute my nice new #! install with broken/outdated packages.

so ... any suggestions?  happy to RTFM if someone could point me in the right direction.

cheers!
[/n00b]

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#23 2013-02-16 20:42:35

PackRat
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Registered: 2011-03-03
Posts: 1,549

Re: enlightenment e17


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#24 2013-02-16 22:04:39

lowrider
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From: Germany
Registered: 2011-09-10
Posts: 732

Re: enlightenment e17

jhoo wrote:

[n00b]
first encountered E when i was distro hopping and tried Bodhi (recent version, 2.2.0?).  loved E but Bodhi was crashy for me (old P4 with Matrox g550).  tried Elive, even paid for it (!) but the package system there seemed pretty n00b hostile, among other things.  then snow -- meh -- and so i'm back at #! (now 11) because it feels like a good place to be.

keep thinking E would be nice though, wondering if i could give it a spin here.  read through this thread and it's not at all clear to me if there is a path forward.  would like to avoid the whole compile-it-yourself thing if at all possible, my n00bness and all.

looked in Synaptic but no joy there, just a few support packages.  the E site has instructions for Debian but they are pretty ancient in distro years and i'd rather not pollute my nice new #! install with broken/outdated packages.

so ... any suggestions?  happy to RTFM if someone could point me in the right direction.

cheers!
[/n00b]

Do yourself a favor and don't use the packages that comes with debian (not even on sid). Theese ones are very outdated (speaking prior to the stable release of e17). You would be confronted with major issues of themes behaviour which leads to an unusable desktop expierience, be warned!
For a real success i strongly suggest bodhilinux or go the arch way and build it up from scratch (not that hard   monkey )


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#25 2013-02-16 22:32:03

jhoo
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Registered: 2013-02-16
Posts: 2

Re: enlightenment e17

thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.

must say that i'm a tad surprised that "build it" seems to be the way to go -- assuming i want it in #! -- but hey, when in Rome ....

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