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#1 2013-02-16 16:38:17

doompod
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Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

Hi guys
I know this is my first post but I would love the communitys help with something...
I have just done an install of #! and am loving it.
Then I got wondering, what version am I on?

It turns out I'm on #! 10

So my question to you guys is this
Is it worth upgrading after getting #! set up just how I want it? or will an apt-get update do?
and if upgrades ARE needed is it possible to set #! up so it acts like a rolling releace.

Thanks guys
doompod

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#2 2013-02-16 16:48:08

snowpine
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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

The cb-welcome script that runs on your first boot will update your system. If you want to run the upgrade commands your self (and yes, I recommend you do this on a regular basis; I do it on Friday evenings so if the upgrades introduce any bugs I can fix them over the weekend) here they are:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

CrunchBang is not, and never has been, a "rolling release" distro. It is based on Debian, which is stability-oriented. If you have Backports repo enabled, then you will get some newer end-user applications on top of your stable core system.

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#3 2013-02-16 16:58:00

doompod
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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

snowpine wrote:

The cb-welcome script that runs on your first boot will update your system. If you want to run the upgrade commands your self (and yes, I recommend you do this on a regular basis; I do it on Friday evenings so if the upgrades introduce any bugs I can fix them over the weekend) here they are:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

CrunchBang is not, and never has been, a "rolling release" distro. It is based on Debian, which is stability-oriented. If you have Backports repo enabled, then you will get some newer end-user applications on top of your stable core system.

So this means I shouldn't need to update to #! 11?
I did the apt-get commands just to check and I'm all up to date so should that be the end of it as long as I update reguaraly?

Thanks for the help
doompod

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#4 2013-02-16 17:01:19

snowpine
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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

#! 10 has at least 1 year of support left (from Debian, not from #! developer). When it reaches its "end of life" (or when you decide you want newer software) then I recommend a fresh reinstall of a newer system (such as #! 11).

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#5 2013-02-16 19:42:22

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

11 is very stable. I would suggest installing it now, before all your customizatikns and changes rather than a year down the road. You wont regret it.

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#6 2013-02-17 07:25:26

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

CrunchBang11...just be aware that some have had heat issues possibly related to nVidia and AMD/ATI video cards.  CrunchBang11 and a Sidified CrunchBang11 (dual boot) run great on my ASUS UL20A.


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#7 2013-02-17 17:02:00

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

schwim wrote:

11 is very stable. I would suggest installing it now, before all your customizations and changes rather than a year down the road. You wont regret it.

I use Waldorf (11) on my primary system and I can certainly vouch for its stability. I'd recommend you install 11 and then tweak the system to your liking.

As a side-note, I can't say I understand this too well, but isn't 11 about to go Stable anyway?

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#8 2013-02-17 19:35:39

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

Yeah, wheezy (and hence waldorf) are likely to go stable in the next few months. There's no release schedule, though, so it's hard to tell for sure...

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#9 2013-02-18 06:50:10

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

joek wrote:

Yeah, wheezy (and hence waldorf) are likely to go stable in the next few months. There's no release schedule, though, so it's hard to tell for sure...

I received an email yesterday from Debian stating that Wheezy RC1 installer was available, so they're definitely getting closer to stabilizing Wheezy.

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#10 2013-02-19 00:36:01

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

KrunchTime wrote:

I received an email yesterday from Debian stating that Wheezy RC1 installer was available, so they're definitely getting closer to stabilizing Wheezy.

Exciting times... wink

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#11 2013-02-19 00:40:24

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

Yep, wheezy has been solid for me as well. For desktop use I'd recommend it over Squeeze.

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#12 2013-02-19 14:55:00

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

snowpine wrote:

The cb-welcome script that runs on your first boot will update your system. If you want to run the upgrade commands your self (and yes, I recommend you do this on a regular basis; I do it on Friday evenings so if the upgrades introduce any bugs I can fix them over the weekend) here they are:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

CrunchBang is not, and never has been, a "rolling release" distro. It is based on Debian, which is stability-oriented. If you have Backports repo enabled, then you will get some newer end-user applications on top of your stable core system.

is there any difference between "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?

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#13 2013-02-19 15:03:49

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

Yes. Type "man apt-get" to read the exact difference.


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#14 2013-03-01 15:04:55

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

11 Waldorf is quite stable. Statler is pretty moldy, and I've had much, much better hardware support with Waldorf.


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#15 2013-03-05 08:38:46

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Re: Updating (is it worth while/needed)?

I expect installing waldorf fresh would be he ideal thing to do if you want to upgrade - but I was advised that you don't have to do that so I just changed the sources and updated to waldorf that way - haven't had any problems but it  might not be the ideal way.
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