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#2051 2013-02-13 22:16:26

rkwurth
#! Junkie
Registered: 2012-09-04
Posts: 365

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Howdy, howdy DA. I've been running Crux for a week or two. It's kind of like Slackware with less users and a smaller iso. Happy with everything so far!

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#2052 2013-02-14 10:11:27

intoCB
Scatweasel
Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,393

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

@Unia - temperature is fine. 37°C at the moment.

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#2053 2013-02-14 10:28:41

Unia
#! Octo-portal-pussy
From: The Netherlands
Registered: 2010-07-17
Posts: 4,590

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

intoCB wrote:

@Unia - temperature is fine. 37°C at the moment.

But you have the new mesa and kernel 3.8; I don't have those yet and I don't feel like upgrading to testing on Arch. I will go back to Catalyst and try again when those hit stable here. Seems like a good improvement, though.


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#2054 2013-02-14 12:01:58

intoCB
Scatweasel
Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,393

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Disappointing news. It has the proprietary driver installed. Mageia had announced that for the beta 2, proprietary drivers would not be included. Oh well, back to the drawing board. Even more worrying was discovering that an active SSH server was running and sshd_config was set to PermitRootLogin no password required sad

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#2055 2013-02-14 12:09:26

Unia
#! Octo-portal-pussy
From: The Netherlands
Registered: 2010-07-17
Posts: 4,590

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ Hahahaha fail!  tongue


If you can't sit by a cozy fire with your code in hand enjoying its simplicity and clarity, it needs more work. --Carlos Torres
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#2056 2013-02-15 13:59:04

Digit
#! Die Hard
From: the internet
Registered: 2009-05-26
Posts: 1,083
Website

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

rkwurth wrote:

Howdy, howdy DA. I've been running Crux for a week or two. It's kind of like Slackware with less users and a smaller iso. Happy with everything so far!

always makes me smile when i hear of someone using crux or kwort.  smile

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#2057 2013-02-16 20:03:22

CBizgreat!
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2011-07-27
Posts: 1,865

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Linux BBQ Trollinger ...

Liking it very much so far, a ton of others offered by Machine I'm intending to try too. Long since had mucho respect for machinebacons nix know how, hadn't tried any of the fledgling offerings from the distro tho. Installed smoothly, where many others wouldn't and literally saved me dys in dorking around with other options to get Sid up and running on this new lappy. Time is a precious thing ... not to be squandered for me.

Between work and home work on off hrs. Don't have endless time to screw with gnu/nix projects @ the moment. Just saying liking Linux bbq ...



Vll ! smile

On a sidenote, am thinking about coming out with a distro of my own. Called Dyvirg Linux, going to be based on Arch linux, the motto is going to be. "By the time you get through dealing with all of Arch's over complications and built in butt pains, you'll almost certainly Die a virgin." tongue Sighs ... dorking around folks ...


Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue

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#2058 2013-02-16 21:33:52

CaptainIndifferent
#! CrunchBanger
From: The Vale of Si
Registered: 2012-05-05
Posts: 202

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

CBizgreat! wrote:

On a sidenote, am thinking about coming out with a distro of my own. Called Dyvirg Linux, going to be based on Arch linux, the motto is going to be. "By the time you get through dealing with all of Arch's over complications and built in butt pains, you'll almost certainly Die a virgin." tongue Sighs ... dorking around folks ...

big_smile

Hey CB, I know it's been a while since the ol' Ban the User Above You thread went to the great bit bucket in the sky but it's almost worth reviving it just for that last comment!  tongue


Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.

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#2059 2013-02-16 21:38:33

intoCB
Scatweasel
Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,393

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

This might be wrong on so many levels but while I'm neutral/indifferent towards Arch Linux, the idea of ArchBSD just turns me on.

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#2060 2013-02-17 00:44:14

CBizgreat!
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2011-07-27
Posts: 1,865

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Bans IntoCB .... for being turned on by a hybrid Arch + BSD mix. lol

@Captain ...

Yeppers ... probably true. Alas ... whatcha going to do, apparently that thread haz run its course. Thought about reviving it the other dy ... didn't, shrugs. Gotta admit tho, the above is funny ... regardless of who ya are. Dyvirg linux should happen darnit, if only for the comic value of it. tongue Oh well ... Linux bbq has some interesting offerings (imo).


Vll! smile


Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue

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#2061 2013-02-17 13:37:19

CBizgreat!
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2011-07-27
Posts: 1,865

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

In other news ...

Recently tried Arch Linux again ... and some Arch based distros, specifically Archbang ...

Not sure if should even go into it, can pretty much summarize with one word = PITA ( pain in de arse.)

Though admit, it could very likely be my own lack of patience and tastes, rather than Arch or Archbangs limitations. Still sticking by the opinion that Arch ( and based) aren't overly considerate of the user-base and tend to fight end-users by design, in an extremely unnecessary fashion. Both were problem filled and more time consuming than I was willing to deal with. Alot of chit ... that imo, just wasn't designed right.

Same reason I gave for overwriting a perfectly working Arch install, when left their forums. "This distro is designed to be user-unfriendly and fight users much more than is necessary. Am going w good ole Debian"

Still that's my preferences and owe and apology to the Archers here, esp Dura. Was out of line labelling them "30yr old virgins, who live n their mothers basements." More a result of frustration and alcohol abuse, rather than a problem with the Arch community. Archbang ... continued to rise to the occasion and provide me with many additional/senseless butt pains ... Got rid of it and felt a sense of instant elation, shrugs. tongue

Am sure there are tonnes of great folks among the Arch n Archbang communities tho. As in all gnu/nix distro communities.


End babble ... Vll! smile

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Some common cbiz abbreviations. This will save me time and yet @ same time tell folks what the babble is supposed to mean.

Vll ! = ( Viva la gnu/Linux !)    Vl#!! = ( Viva la #! !)    Last but not least, UD ... OD ! = ( Use Debian ... or die !) tongue

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#2062 2013-02-17 16:27:02

intoCB
Scatweasel
Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,393

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^It's clearly not for you, then. You could always run Manjaro for a bit to get used to how the system works. I imagine Arch would be much easier after that.

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#2063 2013-02-17 16:38:23

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,982

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Debian Wheezy (gnome desktop) was just too buggy for me so I distro hopped over to Mint last week. Finally a distro that "just works;" I am ecstatic! smile

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#2064 2013-02-17 22:59:36

vrkalak
#! Die Hard
From: Las Vegas > US
Registered: 2009-09-14
Posts: 1,637

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ snowpine...

I am a Debian-Maintainer (DM) and the rumor around the office is, that the new 'stable' Debian 7 Wheezy and Debian 8 Testing releases will have the Xfce DE as default.  Gnome 3 is still there but has been moved to the back burner - so to speak.

Debian (like Linus T.) is going with Xfce-4.10

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#2065 2013-02-17 23:16:40

snowpine
#!-a-roo
Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,982

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I'm on Xfce 4.10 now too as part of the switch-over. It is a big adjustment but I think I will grow to like it. smile

ps Do you have an ETA on wheezy going stable? wink

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#2066 2013-02-17 23:26:43

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,484

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I think you can get much of the Gnome 2 behavior with XFCE.  Esp if you use Cairo or AWN.  I'd say only a trained eye and a hardcore Gnome 2 user could spot the difference.
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#2067 2013-02-17 23:48:21

snowpine
#!-a-roo
Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,982

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ but not the Gnome 3 behavior (which I much prefer to Gnome 2).

Nevertheless the Mint implementation I'm finding is very easy to use.


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#2068 2013-02-18 01:18:41

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,484

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^Just building on the Debian comments and of course all the distros that have either forked Gnome or have stayed with Gnome 2.
There's a reason they are there.
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#2069 2013-02-18 06:16:55

intoCB
Scatweasel
Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,393

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

vrkalak wrote:

^ snowpine...

I am a Debian-Maintainer (DM) and the rumor around the office is, that the new 'stable' Debian 7 Wheezy and Debian 8 Testing releases will have the Xfce DE as default.  Gnome 3 is still there but has been moved to the back burner - so to speak.

Debian (like Linus T.) is going with Xfce-4.10

Having tried Debian testing with KDE, Xfce and Gnome Shell, I am of the opinion that Xfce is the most suitable candidate for the default DE.

Even though I actually like Gnome Shell and am currently using it with Mageia, I didn't like it on Debian. Considering what Debian is and its place in the GNU/Linux ecosystem, I see its user-base much happier with Xfce.

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#2070 2013-02-18 06:24:45

intoCB
Scatweasel
Registered: 2012-10-25
Posts: 2,393

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Btw, I did actually want Xfce with Mageia but the choices are limited. You can either do a netinstall (boot.iso), broken in Cauldron (testing) or use the DVD and select other desktops and untick all the packages you don't want (worked beautifully but I had problems with grub). Or grab a gnome or kde version and get the Xfce meta-package from the repos.

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#2071 2013-02-18 06:48:17

Ferre
#! Member
From: Belgium
Registered: 2011-02-19
Posts: 76

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I'm running Debian Wheezy XFCE for a while now on my (old) test-platform and it runs just great. Not one single error and swift like a Debian should be smile


A computer without Windows is like a pie without mustard #!

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#2072 2013-02-18 13:44:29

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,484

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I have Linux Mint 9 XFCE running on a (10 year old?) Pentium D (3.2 ghz with hyper threading) and 1 gig (rambus) RAM.  I do have a 512 mb AGP card in it.  It doesn't miss a lick.
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#2073 2013-02-18 15:05:17

JLloyd13
#! Member
Registered: 2012-08-08
Posts: 83

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

hinto wrote:

I have Linux Mint 9 XFCE running on a (10 year old?) Pentium D (3.2 ghz with hyper threading) and 1 gig (rambus) RAM.  I do have a 512 mb AGP card in it.  It doesn't miss a lick.
-Hinto


umm... 9? you realize how out of date that is. You can definitly find distro that will work fine in 1GB of ram more up to date. heck, few 32-bit distros, even the thick ones, ever use more then that beyond caching. go thin you can even get a new, solid 64-bit one.

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#2074 2013-02-18 15:14:04

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,484

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^Of course I know how out of date it is wink The original PC went south about 2 years ago.  I recently found a case, MB, etc where I transplanted the crashed hard drive, cpu chip, graphics card to and booted it up and let the packages upgrade.  I haven't dist-upgraded yet (it's worth a try).  I was like taking a step back in time;)  It was a dual boot.  You cannot imagine how long it took for Windows XP to install all it's updates (for the past 2 years).
-HInto

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#2075 2013-02-18 16:57:43

ivanovnegro
Ivan #000000
From: unstable madness
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 5,432

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

JLloyd13 wrote:

umm... 9?

AFAIK still supported till April. So, the OS is still getting support.

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