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#1 2013-05-07 18:10:31

nitrofurano
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is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

there are some news online telling that Wheezy is now "stable" - so, it seems that "testing" is now Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing? and how should we do that? and will be the next Crunchbang live-cd installer based on Wheezy now as default?

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#2 2013-05-07 22:28:55

ivanovnegro
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Registered: 2011-06-02
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

Crunchbang Waldorf is already released based on Debian Wheezy. You have nothing to worry about if your sources pin to Waldorf what is the default.

Debian Testing is now Jessie. Your dist-upgrade depends on if you are running Waldorf or Testing, in both cases you should upgrade to stay current. wink

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#3 2013-05-08 12:05:47

nitrofurano
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

thanks! since i use to install packages from Ubuntu's PPA repositories, and always trying new versions of software (i'm using mostly editors related to design, graphic design, and technical drawing (vectorial, raster, 2d, 3d, etc.) - so new useful and needed features are always appearing ), and Squeeze were too much outdated for that, so i imagine that using Wheezy now when stable, this situation may come back again soon! that's why i think i need to keep on "testing"! big_smile

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#4 2013-05-09 11:47:07

ivanovnegro
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

The Ubuntu PPA thing is not what I would recommend but yes, if you want to stay on Testing, replace wheezy with testing in your sources list.

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#5 2013-05-09 17:17:08

ew
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Registered: 2012-09-27
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

ivanovnegro wrote:

The Ubuntu PPA thing is not what I would recommend but yes, if you want to stay on Testing, replace wheezy with testing in your sources list.

Just to be sure. I`ve replaced wheezy with jessie in my sources, and already done the dist-upgrade. I had no issues with that, but I assume that this is exactly the same as changing the sources to testing. Only difference is that when Jessie some day goes stable, then testing in the sources will track the new testing release, while it with jessie in the sources will continue to track jessie no mather what. Have I got this correct?


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#6 2013-05-09 17:22:59

aiBo
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Registered: 2010-11-08
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

^ Yes, ew. That's how it works.

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#7 2013-05-10 03:46:50

sunfizz98
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

If testing is Jessie, then what is unstable? Is it still Sid?

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#8 2013-05-10 03:52:52

greywolf
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

sunfizz98 wrote:

If testing is Jessie, then what is unstable? Is it still Sid?

Yes, unstable is ALWAYS Sid - never changes name.

greywolf.


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it's about learning to dance in the rain.

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#9 2013-05-10 04:58:00

DapperMe17
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From: Todd's Gang
Registered: 2012-10-19
Posts: 221

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

Ironically, the only ext HDD that's died on me (after a couple of years of use) is the most expensive one - a Lacie Porsche edition. Thankfully, I won it at some store's anniversary giveaway day and didn't have to pay a cent.

Nice to see Victoria Secret entering the electronics business! But, Lacie Porche? Come on...
lol

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#10 2013-05-10 05:00:31

pvsage
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Registered: 2009-10-18
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

Sid always equals Unstable.  This is because Sid is named after the neighbor kid in Toy Story who enjoys destroying toys, and Unstable is (theoretically) where you're most likely to encounter breakage.  (This analogy, of course, ignores the Experimental repo, which has no Toy Story alias.)

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#11 2013-05-16 18:21:43

chameleon
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

So Guys and Gals...has anybody experienced any issues with a Crunchbang upgrade to Jessie?

I must admit that I am tempted to do this on one of my testing boxes  wink

ie. an upgrade from the latest Waldorf release to 'Janice'/Debian Jessie...

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#12 2013-05-16 18:34:12

james0610
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

No issues here. I did do it on a fresh  #! install though. Change sources to jessie and also apt-preferences to jessie.

Last edited by james0610 (2013-05-16 20:43:20)


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#13 2013-05-16 18:47:07

chameleon
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

@james0610
Thanks for the feedback...yes that would be my plan;
A fresh install of the latest Crunchy release followed by a sources/apt-preferences change to 'Jessie'...very tempting  cool

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#14 2013-05-16 19:50:21

ew
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

chameleon wrote:

@james0610
Thanks for the feedback...yes that would be my plan;
A fresh install of the latest Crunchy release followed by a sources/apt-preferences change to 'Jessie'...very tempting  cool

No issues for me either. Don`t try to resist the temptation, just do it, the screenfetch-dev will look like this:

screenshot-05162013-094650pm.png


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#15 2013-05-16 20:05:13

mosesgunn
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Registered: 2012-10-20
Posts: 133

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

@james0601, @chameleon, @ew:

I understand what to change in sources. is that it?  what's apt-preference?  that's new to me.

Thanks!

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#16 2013-05-16 20:46:02

james0610
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

/etc/apt/preferences and it would need to look like this:

Package: *
Pin: release a=waldorf
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: *
Pin: release a=jessie
Pin-Priority: 500

And your /etc/apt/sources.list file would need to be something like this:

## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Wheezy, but use at your own risk.
deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main
#deb-src http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main

## DEBIAN
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free

## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

Obviously the mirrors are set up for my location.

Then:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Hope this helps

Last edited by james0610 (2013-05-16 20:52:32)


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#17 2013-05-17 01:06:22

mosesgunn
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Registered: 2012-10-20
Posts: 133

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

Thanks!  I'll give it a whirl!

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#18 2013-05-17 12:11:39

mosesgunn
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Registered: 2012-10-20
Posts: 133

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

@james0610 - It worked like a charm!  Having testing/jessie allowed smxi to install the newest liquorix kernel!  you're the bomb!

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#19 2013-05-23 18:02:50

brontosaurusrex
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Registered: 2012-06-15
Posts: 1,510

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

So it is smart to mix waldorf and jessie/testing repos?

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#20 2013-05-23 19:28:32

james0610
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Registered: 2013-02-03
Posts: 91

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

Well in my experience and opinion the crunchbang waldorf repo is just a set of custom apps for #!, some nice scripts and configs.

I have not run into any problems within the two weeks ive been running the new testing


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#21 2013-05-24 16:10:42

chameleon
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Posts: 718
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

Crunchbang+Jessie running sweet on my testing machine  cool

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#22 2013-05-28 06:49:41

rumpel
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Registered: 2013-05-27
Posts: 13

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

Works for me too on my fresh #! install. smile

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#23 2013-05-28 23:30:20

berkough
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From: Las Vegas
Registered: 2011-05-31
Posts: 90
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Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

james0610 wrote:

/etc/apt/preferences and it would need to look like this:

Package: *
Pin: release a=waldorf
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: *
Pin: release a=jessie
Pin-Priority: 500

And your /etc/apt/sources.list file would need to be something like this:

## CRUNCHBANG
## Compatible with Debian Wheezy, but use at your own risk.
deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main
#deb-src http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main

## DEBIAN
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free

## DEBIAN SECURITY
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

Obviously the mirrors are set up for my location.

Then:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Hope this helps


Thank you for this! I'm definitely going to update my main desktop machine at home tonight.


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["In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria."] ~ Ben Franklin

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#24 2013-06-06 00:14:55

DogMatix
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From: UK
Registered: 2012-05-04
Posts: 34

Re: is testing upgrading to Jessie? is dist-upgrade worth doing?

nitrofurano wrote:

thanks! since i use to install packages from Ubuntu's PPA repositories, and always trying new versions of software (i'm using mostly editors related to design, graphic design, and technical drawing (vectorial, raster, 2d, 3d, etc.) - so new useful and needed features are always appearing ), and Squeeze were too much outdated for that, so i imagine that using Wheezy now when stable, this situation may come back again soon! that's why i think i need to keep on "testing"! big_smile

Absolutely with you with the default availability of the most recent design software tracking 'stable' debian distro's. Blender's 'cycles' rendering engine being my most recent case in point. *buntu's repo's as of last week not offering required version. If you are of the mindset to end Adobe's current monopoly I salute you.

With regards to 'testing' in Crunchbang. I am currently tracking jessie in sources.list & pin, etc.  with no ill-effects. Although I think 'testing' is a safe bet right about now as I believe (not so sure now) testing will be in some kind of freeze for a while since wheezy became the daddy.


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