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#1 2013-10-16 17:49:38

slowgraffiti
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Registered: 2013-01-04
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Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

Hello All,

I wonder if anyone can help me. I have a laptop that has had crunchbang (32bit wheezy) installed for a while and everything has been fine. However, I recently decided to try Steam and although it worked it was telling me my graphics card only had 256mb of memory. The card in my laptop is something called an AMD Radeon 7650 HD with 1GB of ram.

I assumed this was a drivers issue and set about searching on these forums for an answer. I tried four different things:
I tried something called smxi from this post (http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17948&p=1). it seemed to work okay but steam still told me i had 256mb.
Exactly what i did next gets a bit hazy, but i tried something called FGLRX (http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=20055) which wouldnt run saying i didnt have the tools installed.
next i think was debains amd/ati drivers from here (http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17948&p=5). it worked, but wasnt displaying things properly (bits of txt missed out etc. ) and steam would not even run.
I then went onto the debain website and ran a script from there (http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/d … inux%20x86) which seemed to install fine but when i restarted it just gave me a black screen.

I can get into recovery mode, but have no idea what to do in it (im a basic level user at best). I may have done other things that i forgot, last night is just a long frustrating blur now. If anyone could help me get me laptop to work again i would be very grateful; if you can help me get my graphics card to work i would be even more so.

thank you
joe

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#2 2013-10-17 05:45:09

benginm
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

Salutations!

slowgraffiti,

"FGLRX" is the proprietary AMD graphics driver , you've tried to install it 3 times in a raw!

let's try to get things back to normal! wi'll remove -purge the fglrx drive and reload/install the open source radeon driver.

# from reocvery mode, login with your ; username and password , then run the follwoung commands:

sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*

sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-ati

sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

sudo reboot

# if/when you get your desktop back, you may wanna install radeon driver firmware without it, you might get poor 2D/3D performance !

So,  enable non-free repository in your sources.list at the end of the lin .. like so :

    deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free

and

sudo apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree

then reboot and see how things go with steam and in general.

;/

Last edited by benginm (2013-10-17 05:46:16)

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#3 2013-10-17 18:55:52

slowgraffiti
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

hello Sary,

Thank you very much for your time and help. My laptop now works again.

Unfortunatley on the steam front i am back to square one. it is saying that i have X.org 256MB, and when i try and up the resolution i get a warning that i only have 268.44MB dedicated GPU memory. I am now guessing this is a steam rather than driver problem but google is not helping me much. dont supppose anyone has any ideas?

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#4 2013-10-17 21:30:52

benginm
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

Hi slowgraffiti, you're welcome .. glad you have your desktop back!

it very mcuh could be a bug on steam's end!

for further investigation  ... run the follwoing commands and paste the ouputs here please:

lspci -v | less

dmesg |grep VGA

grep -i mem /var/log/Xorg.0.log

sudo dmesg | grep drm

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#5 2013-10-17 22:15:43

slowgraffiti
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

hello again,

lspci -v | less:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00005000-00005fff
        Memory behind bridge: c4000000-c4ffffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000b0000000-00000000bfffffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 41
        Memory at c5100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 7
        Memory at c5114000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16]
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
        Memory at c5119000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44
        Memory at c5110000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=07, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00004000-00004fff
        Memory behind bridge: c3000000-c3ffffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000c0000000-00000000c0ffffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev c4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=08, subordinate=0d, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00003fff
        Memory behind bridge: c2000000-c2ffffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000c1000000-00000000c1ffffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev c4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=0e, subordinate=0e, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000c5000000-00000000c50fffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
        Memory at c5118000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM76 Express Chipset LPC Controller (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 04) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 43
        I/O ports at 6048 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 6054 [size=4]
        I/O ports at 6040 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 6050 [size=4]
        I/O ports at 6020 [size=32]
        Memory at c5117000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ahci

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
        Memory at c5115000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        I/O ports at 6000 [size=32]

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Thames [Radeon 7500M/7600M Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 46
        Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Memory at c4000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
        I/O ports at 5000 [size=256]
        Expansion ROM at c4040000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: radeon

01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks/Whistler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6000 Series]
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45
        Memory at c4020000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device e044
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
        Memory at c3000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
        Expansion ROM at c0000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ath9k

08:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5209 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
        Memory at c2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: rts_pstor

0e:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 07)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device 90ac
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 42
        I/O ports at 2000 [size=256]
        Memory at c5004000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Memory at c5000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: r8169

dmesg |grep VGA:

[    0.000000] Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
[    8.108815] [drm]   VGA

grep -i mem /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

[    14.925] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem i686 Debian
[    15.063] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:6841:104d:90ac rev 0, Mem @ 0xb0000000/268435456, 0xc4000000/131072, I/O @ 0x00005000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
[    15.568] (II) RADEON(0): mem size init: gart size :1fdff000 vram size: s:40000000 visible:f7d7000

sudo dmesg | grep drm:

[    6.696097] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[    6.935629] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[    6.944475] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (TURKS 0x1002:0x6841 0x104D:0x90AC).
[    6.944514] [drm] register mmio base: 0xC4000000
[    6.944516] [drm] register mmio size: 131072
[    6.944647] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=1024M, BAR=256M
[    6.944649] [drm] RAM width 128bits DDR
[    6.944710] [drm] radeon: 1024M of VRAM memory ready
[    6.944712] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[    6.944722] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072
[    6.945137] [drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
[    6.945235] [drm] Loading TURKS Microcode
[    8.091572] [drm] PCIE GART of 512M enabled (table at 0x0000000000040000).
[    8.091716] [drm] fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x40000c00 and cpu addr 0xffbbbc00
[    8.091721] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010).
[    8.091723] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[    8.091803] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[    8.108129] [drm] ring test on 0 succeeded in 1 usecs
[    8.108242] [drm] ib test on ring 0 succeeded in 0 usecs
[    8.108782] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[    8.108785] [drm] Connector 0:
[    8.108787] [drm]   LVDS
[    8.108791] [drm]   DDC: 0x6560 0x6560 0x6564 0x6564 0x6568 0x6568 0x656c 0x656c
[    8.108794] [drm]   Encoders:
[    8.108796] [drm]     LCD1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[    8.108799] [drm] Connector 1:
[    8.108801] [drm]   HDMI-A
[    8.108802] [drm]   HPD1
[    8.108806] [drm]   DDC: 0x6430 0x6430 0x6434 0x6434 0x6438 0x6438 0x643c 0x643c
[    8.108808] [drm]   Encoders:
[    8.108810] [drm]     DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY1
[    8.108813] [drm] Connector 2:
[    8.108815] [drm]   VGA
[    8.108818] [drm]   DDC: 0x64d8 0x64d8 0x64dc 0x64dc 0x64e0 0x64e0 0x64e4 0x64e4
[    8.108820] [drm]   Encoders:
[    8.108822] [drm]     CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[    8.108889] [drm] Internal thermal controller without fan control
[    8.109920] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[    8.562665] [drm] fb mappable at 0xB0142000
[    8.562671] [drm] vram apper at 0xB0000000
[    8.562673] [drm] size 8294400
[    8.562675] [drm] fb depth is 24
[    8.562678] [drm]    pitch is 7680
[    8.562824] fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device
[    9.555974] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
[    9.555977] drm: registered panic notifier
[    9.555998] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.16.0 20080528 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0

guess you didnt need all that, but better more than less i thought. dont really understand all that, but i really hope i didnt dream about having a 1gb graphics card...

hope that helps. thanks again.

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#6 2013-10-17 23:55:38

benginm
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

hey, Thanks for your prompt response, Here is your GPU 1Gb of Ram
/

6.944647] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=1024M, BAR=256M
6.944710] [drm] radeon: 1024M of VRAM memory ready
6.944712] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.

and in hex, memory size is  after 's':


15.568] (II) RADEON(0): mem size init: gart size :1fdff000 vram size: s:40000000 visible:f7d7000

So no, you were not dreaming!

OpenGL does not provide a standard way for apps to query the amount of memory available. There have been several proposals, but nothing has come of it so far. Apps end up having to do their own hacks to guess how much memory is available.

there might be a driver patch for radeon somewhere!

BTW, how is your OpenGl/3D performance test!  check it:

https://wiki.debian.org/Mesa#Testingperformance

Last edited by benginm (2013-10-17 23:56:19)

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#7 2013-10-18 00:03:42

benginm
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

Almost forgot, which kernel/version/arch you're running!

uname -a

hmm

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#8 2013-10-18 11:16:45

slowgraffiti
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Posts: 13

Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

hello again,

glxinfo | grep render:

direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD TURKS
GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render,

glxgears -info:

301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.084 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.988 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.980 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.984 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.984 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.989 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.979 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.984 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.982 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.985 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.988 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.983 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.981 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.984 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.983 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.984 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.984 FPS

uname -a:

Linux laptop 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 i686 GNU/Linux

does this need updating?
also, i was considering moving to 64bit version at some point. any chance the 64bit driver would be better, or is that not how this works?

thank you

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#9 2013-10-20 06:54:01

benginm
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

Hi, excuse my delay!

definitely, as new kernel version has driver updates and patches! 3.2 is the long-team support version.

https://www.kernel.org/

also, have a look at :

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … ajor&num=1

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … rnel&num=1

# I use the Liquorix Kernel , http://liquorix.net/

# i'm not sure if there is any differences in a graphic driver between 64-32bit !but, if you have a 4+GB   of system memory, then 64 bit will yell better performance on many new games!

So, while the #! repos is still down, if you want to upgrade you'll need to comment out the #! repos from your sources.list as such

#deb http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf waldorf main

apt-get update , apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade .

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#10 2013-10-20 19:08:55

slowgraffiti
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Posts: 13

Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

so i upgraded my kernel. I just went witht the standard 3.12 for now after reading that first article; I may look into liquorix later.

Linux laptop 3.12.0-031200rc6-generic #201310191635 SMP Sat Oct 19 20:46:10 UTC 2013 i686 GNU/Linux

opengl seems to have improved to higher than i even knew was possible:

5455 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1090.903 FPS
5677 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1135.223 FPS
5629 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1125.612 FPS
5664 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1132.758 FPS
5591 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1118.103 FPS
5637 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1127.212 FPS
5575 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1114.840 FPS
5562 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1112.336 FPS
5627 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1125.391 FPS
5642 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1128.373 FPS

default font size seems to have increased, which i quite like.
steam now says i have VMWare Inc 256mb rather than x.org 256mb.

have 8gb of ram so maybe i will consider 64 bit version when the repos work again.

thank you again

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#11 2013-10-23 11:39:01

infiniteammo
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Registered: 2013-10-12
Posts: 8

Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

I hate to sound like a Negative Nancy, but IMO you're wasting your time.
AMD/ATI's drivers with Linux are pretty crappy, and always have been. I've heard that they've gotten better recently, but from experience, I've never gotten an AMD/ATI GPU working 100% in Linux. I won't implore you to stop from trying to get it to work, but if you want my advice, since you're asking for it on the forum... don't even bother. If you insist on trying to game on Linux either a) get an Nvidia GPU or b) just reinstall Windows. Your life is better spent on other things, or actually playing the games you wanna play.
What you're experiencing is one of Linux's major shortcomings as an operating system. With Steam OS coming out soon, this may change... but that remains to be seen. Good luck.

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#12 2013-10-23 12:01:29

benginm
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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

infiniteammo wrote:

AMD/ATI GPU working 100% in Linux.

Mine is , and it's a Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] smile

But, you've missed the point :

sary wrote:

OpenGL does not provide a standard way for apps to query the amount of memory available. There have been several proposals, but nothing has come of it so far. Apps end up having to do their own hacks to guess how much memory is available.

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#13 2013-10-24 00:46:33

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Re: Please help with my AMD Raedon graphics card

Sary wrote:
infiniteammo wrote:

AMD/ATI GPU working 100% in Linux.

Mine is , and it's a Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] smile

But, you've missed the point :

sary wrote:

OpenGL does not provide a standard way for apps to query the amount of memory available. There have been several proposals, but nothing has come of it so far. Apps end up having to do their own hacks to guess how much memory is available.

That's good... feel fortunate. lol.
I guess I did miss the point... but glad to see people can actually get their cards to work on Linux now. I stopped trying a few years ago; it was extremely frustrating.

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